Training Camp 8/14

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  1. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    not even sure there were any reports on any of those guys today. its all about the QBs... I for one would love to know how Ivory has been doing.

    any slowness? any restrictive movement? is he continuing his unyielding ability to continue a rush as he did in his highlights? because that was what I liked about him and want to see him do this fall.

    but no... lets just keep harping on the QB mess (and by mess I mean the way people are reacting)
     
  2. laxin

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    I could care less about Garrard at this point. Totally different situation with Geno... In the end though, it may have never been a competition. Only time will tell. Even is Sanchez starts, Geno will start at some point in the season.
     
  3. One thing I don't understand about some of you..is any time there is a shift in the tide within the QB competition, suddenly "This was the plan all along" type conspiracies surface.

    No 2 QB competitions are the same. Everything is subject to countless variables. We don't know what happens in the film room, huddles or sometimes even what is being worked on in practice.

    Right now it looks like Sanchez is starting to pull away alittle bit. Geno is deep into the "rookie wall" & isn't 100%. Is it really this great scam on Jet nation that Sanchez starts the 2nd preseason game under those circumstances? What suggests that this is all one big sham?
     
  4. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    - Watching tape
    - Taking notes
    - Watching more tape
    - Seeing things from the sideline

    If the guy ain't ready you don't throw him out there. Practice and repetition will get him there.
     
  5. Jeti

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    Geno can do all that and will improve as the year goes on

    His footwork is better than it was coming into the draft and he looks good coming from under center

    The only way he's going to get better at it is doing it in a game over and over again

    Sitting will do nothing for him especially behind Sanchez
     
  6. Of COURSE practice & film time can fix those fundamental flaws. In fact having him work on those items in practice allows him to learn at his own pace w/o the pressures of trying to produce & lead this franchise.
     
  7. Br4d

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    If Geno Smith sits for a year we're fairly likely to wind up with another high draft pick at QB next year. Just my opinion but I think it's reality based. If Sanchez plays most of the year the Jets are probably going 6-10/7-9 with him as one of the major reasons they couldn't get anything going.

    That will get Rex fired, since he went with Sanchez and the move failed. The new HC will want a clean slate at QB and he'll assure Idzik that Geno will be in the competition moving forward, with his guy.
     
  8. scoochydawg

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    Rex already decided who will start. He is trying to ease the reaction when he publicly names Sanchez the starter. There is no competition. Unless Rex gets an extension, he is not going with an unproven rookie in a weak class of rookie QBs to save his job. He is waiting for the right time to say it. And the right time is after publicly saying your rookie QB had a brutal day.
     
  9. BroadwayGeno

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    Ryan's obsession with Nacho Sanchez.

    Has he criticized him once this whole camp? He came out today and pissed on Geno and has not once said anything positive about him personally. Meanwhile, Nacho throws an awful pix six to a DL and Ryan apparently was eating a hot dog up in the concessions not paying any attention to that
     
  10. Jeti

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    He can do the first 3 while starting

    I've never really understood the learning from watching

    1 you're under no pressure watching so thinking you'd react different to a particular snap or coverage is BS because you gotta be out there

    The only thing that should stop him from starting is the play book and reading defenses(which he's good at)
     
  11. TonyMaC

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    perceived bias from rex to go with sanchez mostly. otherwise its a lot of guesswork and superstition.

    I agree that it wouldn't be the end of the world but it opens old wounds for some, no matter how illogical.
     
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    His footwork doesn't look all that much improved to be honest - someone said it, but he looks like he crunches down a little bit before he releases the football it's kind of awkward.

    Sure you can start him while he learns NFL defenses, improves his footwork and his ability to drop down from center. He can also implode and bust right there on the spot due to him not developing at his own pace.

    You learn what NOT to do on the football field. He will learn at his own pace his rookie year. That is the best situation, Mark's playing well in practice and he's outperforming Geno, Geno doesn't deserve to start right now.
     
  13. So you're basing this all on what Rex says to the media???

    First of all he HAS complimented Geno plenty & HAS criticized Mark. I'm not sure why we'd even be taking tally points on such a thing.

    Secondly...at what point are people gonna realize that 90% of what anyone within the organization says to the media is simply HOT AIR. It's not worth the energy to draw up all these conspiracies based on Rex's official reaction to prior events.
     
  14. BroadwayGeno

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    against who? the scout team d? That will not come close to preparing him for an NFL caliber D
     
  15. So his footwork & drops from center are affected by who he faces in practice?? We're not talking about execution or level of competition.We're talking about RAW technique.These are things worked on outside of scrimmaging & 11-on-11's
     
  16. TonyMaC

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    people will do it anyway... we're all very desperate.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    This conspiracy bullshit needs to end. It's always a good debate until someone brings up favoritism.
     
  18. Jeti

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    Him sitting there and saying okay let me make I don't do that wont stop him from not doing it, it's like training at work you watch someone do it and think hey that's simple but when you're in there it takes a while to get it

    Might as well learn through the process if that's the case

    Geno will have hiccups whether he starts week 1, week 10 or next year but if you're worried about his psyche being shot it won't he's not that type of kid

    As for outperforming, Sanchez was off early in camp and no one within the Jets said a thing about it

    Then everyone sees his 10/13 performance and says he's been great when he was off target damn near every pass, through a pick 6 and 2 almost picked off as well but hey if that's outperforming to you and Rex then I guess that's what we're settling for this year
     
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    his ankle might prevent him from playing Saturday. So get him some holy water. He saids one thing but usually no one believes what a player saids about their health.
     
  20. Jeti

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    So you're saying there's no favoritism in sports
     

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