If we just have to take yet another QB just because we're the Jets and that's what we do, please let him be in the 3rd round or later. I'd rather take the chance of getting the next Russel (as slim as that is) instead of missing out on yet another 2nd round contributor in a position of need. For the love of Pete can we just toss Hack in the deep end and see if he sinks or swims before we spend another high round pick on QB.
Yep The QBs are no value here and I like QBs Next year are the winners (Darnold/Rosen)...Hack job on hack so far imo If I was his agent I would be pissed The Coach and Gm mismanaged him..should have seen him in action BEFORE this draft and then make a decision or else they are afraid to admit he is a bust speaking of need ...that's all this Team is about imo Need everywhere so Mac has gone on record to collect picks and trade down Lots of positions will be filled that way
oj howard ran a 4.51 40. we might not want to move down too far if we want a legit weapon in the passing game for the next 8 years
I'll take scenario #1. I don't want the Jets to fall too far out of the first but #2 is intriging. Nice job Vilma.
I think the best hope for receiving good value in a trade down is if 2 teams fall in love with a QB. Otherwise, at least 1 team does and believes another team ahead of them is in love with the same QB. Buffalo (10) and Cleveland (12) have immediate QB needs. SD (7), NO (11) and AZ (13) are in that underachieving with an aging QB territory that need to start thinking about grooming a QB of the future. Of those 3, AZ is, in my opinion, the most likely to start looking towards the future. I believe NO & SD will focus on adding someone that can help them win now. That being said, Cleveland is the team with the need and ammunition to move up (12 & 52 or 12 & 65 & 108 & 142), but Buffalo is the team they'd have to be concerned with leap frogging. It may be cheaper and easier to get to 8 or 9, than 6.
This is true, however it's worthwhile to note that often the team acquiring the higher pick overpays even by the standards of the Jimmy Johnson chart. It's rare that you get a trade down where the team trading down gets less value than the JJ chart. The other thing worth noting is that the team that makes the offer is at a disadvantage from a bargaining perspective and it is usually the team that makes the call on a trade that gets less than the chart shows. All of this said, the Jets posture that they're open for business on trading down in the draft this year is a wise move. They may not get full value on the trade down but they are more likely to get offers than they otherwise would be and this is a year when the Jets could use all the picks they can get. If they traded down a couple of times and picked up a couple of 2nd round picks in the process, well that's two more good prospects to look at in camp and potentially as many as 3 starters moving forward instead of the 1 guy they could pull on the 6.
The Jets need a QB too. In that situation Cleveland may well decide that trading up for the guy they want is the cost-effective way to get a QB in this draft. Paying the Jets for the 6 may well be cheaper than trying to leapfrog up above the Jets if they're worried the Jets like their guy.
Speaking of QB Do you think the Jets pick up Tyrod taylor if released? Apparently the FO not interested in Mike G I hope we roll with our own 2 but the 2 guys in charge have jobs on the line..sigh
I'm not 100% sure jobs are on the line this year. The contracts both run through 2018 and it is possible that what Macc and Bowles are working for this year is an early extension or being on the firing line after 2018 with no extension. Taylor is going to be an expensive option. The question is do the Jets think they can build around him and win or do they see him as a complementary piece in a strong offense? If they see the former then maybe they sign him and make him a centerpiece of the build. If they see the latter he's of little value to the Jets because they are rebuilding the offense from scratch at this point and having an expensive complementary piece at QB is counter-productive when you are in that situation.
Which is why I feel it to be a very high probability the Jets will not pick one in the 2nd. 1st for that matter either.
At 6, Jets will have their phone ringing off the hook, no doubt. It's a sure bet that there will be more than one player sitting on their laps that other teams will covet.
Mac will pick a QB somewhere in the draft. That was one of his philosophies .....Keep taking a QB till you find your guy. I believe the only way that will not happen is if they grab a guy in FA.
Even if they sign a vet they will probably take one in the draft. petty has been here 3 years now, he has to compete for a spot, the vet shouldn't be lock to make the roster either. sign one draft one and weak link gets cut.
I get all the talk about getting an impact player at 6...but I don't think there is a significant difference between say the 6-10 value board and 15-20...it's a deep class through & through coming down to positions of need & preference. Trading down is obviously in the Jets best interest... The only issue is...do the other teams surrounding the Jets pick feel the same way about the depth & don't see a need to trade up? Unclear at this stage how that will shake out. The QB factor as well as perhaps the shallow OL class could help with this..but it culd go the other way & teams w. those needs are likewise to the jets looking to trade down. I guess we'll see. Right now..the area most favorable to the Jets in my opinion is somewhere around that Browns pick at #12 The ideal targets would be A. Howard B. Cook C.Melifonwu D. Lattimore E. Davis F. Ross Everyone of those guys could be there(or be off the board for that matter) all present help for what ails the Jets
I respectfully disagree. I definitely think there is a dropoff in talent and potential after the first 6-7 picks (maybe 8 if a couple of QB are taken early). In addition, I don't want Cook or Lattimore. I think Cook may have character issues, and I don't think he would be very successful with the Jets' OL. Lattimore has chronic problems with his hammys. He's Millner Part Deux. No thanks. That's the last thing we need. I don't care how fast he runs. Do you mean Obi Melifonwu from Connecticut? Unless the Jets are trading or releasing Pryor, Obi Melifonwu would be a wasted pick imo since he's also a SS. Howard would be a great pick, but I agree that he could very likely be gone by pick #12. I would be much less happy with Ross or Davis than I would be Adams, Hooker, Fournette or Howard.
