He may be, he probably is... But coming from a blog, which it is...I'm not totally sold on it. I want it to be true, and if it is, awesome...But I would like somebody major to report this since it's been over an hour and a half since he reported it.
Well, he also spent all winter telling everyone that the Santana trade to Boston was a done deal, so... Basically he's no more or less credible than anyone else.
You said that you'll wait until you see Olney or Rosenthal report on it, but when they break stories, it's almost always first reported in their blogs. Carroll's a pretty well known guy who writes for a very respected baseball website.
Bingo. Obviously you need to wait for other confirmation before you can be certain, but I just hate assumption that it isn't gospel until ESPN says so. See: Mortensen, Chris.
Olney and Rosenthal are much more credible and respected and if this came on THEIR blog I'd be sold. I don't know who Carroll is, and props to him for breaking the Nady deal...If this is true, then I'll definitely buy into what he has to say in the future...
I truly cannot believe that the Sox are seriously going to trade Manny. And from all looks, in a very lopsided trade. I hate the Sox, but Manny really stuck his **** in the collective @$$40|3 of "Red Sox Nation". Really douche on his part to paint the team that allowed his antics for so long into a corner.
I didn't catch this until now, but if it WAS reported that long ago, there's no way it's true. If it was, Manny would have been pulled from the field, which he was not. Neither was Bay.
How so? Because they're on TV, because they work for companies that are more well known? I don't think there's anyone in the know that considers Olney or Rosenthal, or ESPN and FOX Sports, to be more credible than Will Carroll and BP.com. They all have sources in baseball, and they're all pretty much equal when it comes to accuracy. And I bet a lot of people here, and a lot of people that closely follow baseball, go to BP.com for news and insight before they'd even think about ESPN (and certainly Fox Sports.com).
Carroll never reported that it was a done deal, clearly, since there aren't even names on the prospects yet. Fact is that they needed to submit things to the commissioner's office ahead of time because of the amount of money that's going to have to change hands and because of all the caveats in Manny's contract. Better submit the paperwork with a chance of the deal still falling through than reaching an 11th hour agreement and not having time to process everything.
This report says the rumor is Manny and Grabow are going to Florida. http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/baseball/florida-marlins/story/623930.html I think Carroll was right about the structure of the deal, but no one's quite sure of which players are going where.
It's been almost 2 hours since he posted the "agreed" trade that has been sent to the Commissioner's office, while NOBODY else has picked up on it... Sorry for being skeptical of somebody I've never heard of.
It's fine to be skeptical, since no source is never always right, but there's just as much of a chance that this would be Olney or Rosenthal reporting it. Carroll's pretty well known and respected and is considered just as accurate as anyone on ESPN or that the casual fan might know.
If talks were far enough along where they had to submit paperwork, they would have both been pulled. The commissioner can't approve anything until the details are finalized, so submitting it early would be pointless.
I would be pretty annoyed it this goes through, the last thing the Mets need is for Florida to have the best offense in the NL
Btw, I don't think it was said anywhere that paperwork was submitted, just that his office was notified. Probably so, if it goes down to the final hour of tomorrow's deadline, the commissioner knows they may need an extension to work out financial and contractual details.
I don't think you're allowed to have an extension past the deadline without the players going through waivers.
It could be, I have no idea what the rule is. I always thought that if the only thing holding a deal up was money, the commissioner could give them a short extension to work out the details. I thought I remembered something like this happening in the past, but maybe not.
They can do that in the offseason or before the deadline, but I'm pretty sure that the deal has to be completely submitted by the deadline. The commissioner can approve the paperwork after the deadline, but it has to be in by then.
http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/default.aspx Add a Pirates beat writer in with the Miami one as far as confirmation of the skeleton of Carroll's report is concerned.
