ummm...losing TJ wouldn't result in the Jets accumulating a 3-13 record, if that's what you're getting at. Albeit, he's a good HB...but not an elite one. Halfback is one of the most replaceable positions on offence. If the Jets could swing a high round draft pick for him (won't happen unfortunetly), it would be a steal.
Why give up on a solid RB, good citizen and team leader who rarely fumbles for the unknown? A second round pick is an unknown and that leaves us with Leon and unknown as our starting RB's in an offense where the new coach wants to run the ball.
here's a couple of reasons: -he's 30 years old (Running backs tend to show their wear&tear when they hit 30 years of age - see Shaun Alexander) -his cap number -the possibility of landing a 2nd round pick (that's the premise for this thread...so that will be the assumption) -the proof that excellent HB's can be found in the later rounds of the draft (Leon is a great example) I'm not saying we need to get rid of him...I'm just pointing out that it wouldn't be the end of the world if we did. If we end up with TJ staying with the team...I'm happy with that....if Tanny rapes some stupid General Mgr for a 2nd round pick for him....I'm eccstatic. Just my opinion.
you contradict your self. If halfback is the most replaceable positions why would anyone use a high draft pick for jones. At most we would get a 5th rounder. We arent trading him and nor should we And if our rbs were leon washington starting with lamont as a spell, we would go 3-13. I doubt ratliff or clemens can carry this team
Runningbacks have little to no trade value. If you remember, Chicago basically traded up in the 2nd round by trading Jones. Also, this draft is STACKED with runningbacks. Why trade for a 30 year old back, when you can get a 8-9 year younger back for the same draft pick and millions of dollars less.
10 yrs, how many backs have prouctive 10 yrs, you make it sound as if its a given that a good back out of college plays long term
Where did i contradict myself?? I never said we would use a high draft pick on HB in the draft...i said "acquiring" a high draft pick for TJones would be ideal (I also said it's not going to happen...but if it did, I'd be happy). And you're right...i stated "in reality"...if this trade goes down, we'd probably get a 4-5th round pick....the GM that would give up a 2nd rounder would probably be fired the next day by their owner. first of all...Leon won't start....so I don't know where you came up with that pipe dream...he's a 10-15 carry halfback at best. If TJ is traded...the Jets would either sign a power back in FA or select one in the draft to be the starter, IMO. If the Jets signed Lamont Jordan...whatever....when he's healthy, he fills his role nicely. He's not a starter either anymore, IMO...he's more of a 3rd down/goal line type Hback now.
Jones hasn't been used like Shaun Alexander was. He mainly was used in tandem with another back so his wear and tear should be less for as guy his age. Cap hit, 2nd round hypothetical pick? Understandable points. But also unknown. It is one area on the team that is not broken and I feel it needs no fixing. The Jets record on drafting RB's prior to Leon hasn't very good. I would prefer Jones and Leon with Leon getting more and more carries ala the Jaguars with Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor.
Bro..I'm not disagreeing with you....I'm fine with Jones as our featured back. He was stellar this season. I was merely making a point that it wouldn't be the end of the world if Jones was traded for high draft pick. The team would still flourish with a younger back and Leon getting the carries. TJ is coming up on his 10th pro season...i'm not sure how long he played at Virginia (3 or 4 years?)....so you have to take those seasons into account when talking about his wear & tear. To assume he hasn't lost a step or will not in the near future is "blind faith" at best. So in conclusion....the OP stated "if the Jets could land a 2nd rounder for TJones....would that be a step in the right direction for the future of this team" or something to that effect....my answer is "hell yes". :jets:
If you read the peoples posts who i commented about you'd see that someone said we should go with leon as our starter and lamont as our backup. Which i responded to as we would end up going 3-13
I found the post you were referring to.... FTR...i still say we wouldn't go 3-13 with Leon as our starter and Jordan as the change of pace back. I wouldn't like it.....BUT.....we're also not the Detroit Lions or KC Chiefs either...so i think our record would be better than 3-13.
TJ is coming off a great season and will probably play well for at least another year if not longer. He's a leader in the clubhouse. What's not to like. The more he shares RB with Leon, the more years he'll last. I wouldn't mind a 60/40 or even 50/50 split in carries over the next two seasons.
If we could get a 2nd rounder (as doubtful as that may be) I'd be alright with it. His value is never going to be better than it is right now. A 3rd rounder would be debatable.
These kind of threads are so dumb. Thomas Jones is a beast. Why even talk about trading him? Many people in this thread don't think the idea is too bad. Jets fans suck. 15 touchdowns this year, are you kidding me? With this kind of talk about him, I agree we should trade him, because he deserves better than this fanbase.
I'm on board with trading Jones if we can get a second for him. I think he's probably worth more than a third to the Jets over the next season or two so I'd hold him if a second was not in the offing. On the other hand if the Jets got into the third round and somebody they really wanted moving forward was sitting there waiting for them when a team called with an offer for Jones it'd probably be a good move.
1,312 rushing yards. 15 touchdowns. 4.5 yards per carry. And as many of you know, he could have had so much more if he was used properly.
How did his season compare to the season Curtis had before he bowed to the inevitability of age and did what most runningbacks, even great ones, do as they pass 30? Jones may have another good season or two in him, but he also may have played his last game at a high level.
let's look at the big picture. He has a stout o-line in front of him and he had the "threat" of Favre throwing down field. You seen how Jones fared without those 2 key points being applied in the 2007 season. Once again though, I'm not shitting on TJ....I'm just saying he's replaceable from a positional standpoint. I'm not saying he's replaceable in the community, nor in his leadership role in the locker room....this is strictly from the HB position standpoint.
