I agree with this post. The way the Jet D is set up, Revis back there is the critical difference between a top five D and a more average one. Think of letting him go and playing someone like Coleman back there. Opponents' PPG's go through the roof.
I don't see why we would trade him, we do have his contract for the next three years--a contract he held out for before stepping on the field, by the way. Personally I'm getting a bit tired of Revis bitching about this, as great a player as he is. I'd like to see the Jets reward him but he needs to get a bit of a grip, he's not in his walk year, not even close, and matching the Raiider contract is a ridiculous demand. When you consider that half the fans who are paying his salary just got priced out of the games and most of the rest of us are now sitting in the Newark Airport flight pattern, I think the fans are going to grow tired of this act pretty quickly. This quotes about him feeling hurt and disrespected are a bit over the top. The fact that the Jets are even considering redoing a deal with three years left on it is a sign of respect by itself, Mangold is in his last year of his deal and he's going to have his delayed by Revis.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Now if I could just convince you that basketball isn't really a sport......
Revis will not be traded. Its very hard to trade him. He carries a huge paycheck with him so that limits his market. On top of that, he carries a lot of compensation, further reducing his market to a few heavy spenders and risk takers. I can think of Cowboys as one of the trading partners but we are really talking about 3 or 4 teams that might be willing to give up so much FOR Revis and TO Revis. If it was a case of $13 mil or $15 mil to pay Revis, I'd keep him for the extra $2mils. He'll return the money through his play. But I hope there would be some hard earned incentives just to protect the Jets as well and not like a 90% guaranteed contract.
Condiering this coming year is going to be uncapped, I don't see why the Jets couldn't front-load a deal to make him happy and not cap themselves out for years to come when they have to get the other guys all signed. As a lot of people here have mentioned, it doesn't take a genius to look at the Raiders inability to get any other good players and explain to Revis that greed isn't always good when you have a salary cap and you're trying to field a good team.
typing on my phone in a waiting room. lol . ive made a few posts at length in how i think this could play out. essentially i say give him a 13.5 mil avg front loaded with guarantees. sounds fair. he gives us some slack and we show some good faith with the structuring. i think 16 mil a yr is ridiculous and crippling to the development of the team especially keeping sustained success. this isnt barry sanders and were not oakland. i think the two will meet in the middle to where revis gets alot of money through the structure of the deal and not just a big fat annual cap hit. we all know what he means to the team but i wouldnt lose 2 of the core 4 for him. those screaming pay the man what he wants........ dont come crying when youve got 5 JP machados blocking for sanchez and 2 justin mccareins clones batting down more balls than revis ever could. im not saying im in the fuck revis crowd but he needs to realize woody is not al davis and rex ryan has had top defenses with cbs a fraction of his talent. abyzmul makes a good point about the rule changes of the last decade that being said if demarcus ware and bring down his asking price. if manning and brady did it for sb runs. revis should be a little more lenient than the 16 mil hardline he appears to be taking. well see i jus think he knows how shrewd tanny is so hes playing hardball from the get go jus to land in his idea of a fair deal
This may have found its way into one of the other seventeen Revis threads. From rotoworld: Revis is making tactical mistakes. The first mistake was getting in front of the microphone. He's not a public speaker, so when asked to comment about a sensitive situation like his contract, he came off sounding oblivious to the current economy, selfish and greedy. I don't think he's any of those things; he just can't play to the press like his agents can. As for Rex's press conference, where he threw himself into the "I believe my player" bear trap... there are two ways to look at that. The first is that Rex was embarrassed; the second is that he knew all about the situation and is feigning embarrassment. I lean toward the latter. I am of the school of thought that Rex isn't some free-speaking, lovable schlub in front of a microphone; he's a social genius. That explains why Jason Taylor, LaDainian Tomlinson, Bart Scott and Don Warren are all in green, why Abram Elam is in brown, why this team overachieved last year and why anyone who comes within shouting distance of RR will eat dog shit for him. If you lend Rex Ryan an ear, you'll end up lending him a hell of a lot more. So I don't buy this "ah gee whiz, I've been duped" spiel. He knows whats going on, and unlike his player, he knows how to win battles in front of a microphone. Now Revis is going to be asked questions along the line of "How do you feel about embarrassing the head coach that demanded you be recognized as the best defensive player in the league?" "What do you have to say about betraying Coach Ryan's trust?" etc., etc., etc. It's not the tipping point, but its a very small win for the Jets camp. Right now, Revis has a fan base and a locker room behind him, but tiny little missteps like these will change that, over time.
On "why don't we frontload"--every team believes that whatever the final CBA is, it's going to include some provision to make sure that payments made in 2010 are spread out over the length of the contract so teams CAN'T frontload. This might not happen but you don't want to be the team that pays Revis 30 million in 2010 to frontload the contract and then get screwed when the 2010 amounts are added to the 2011/2012 cap numbers.
This is a good possibility. The uncertainty is fucking everyone, it's the reason Leon didn't get a deal done last year too, that and his idiot agent. The whole Leon thing and the way it played out in the worst-case scenario--a horrific injury, no contract and shipped off to Seattle--doesn't help when we're asking players to just shut up and play out their current contracts, either.
I agree, the kids is so smooth on the field but picks a punk for an agent. I see the Ty Law thing because they are from the same town (and it's a shit hole). But Ty Law got treated like dirt from NE and I think his advice is tainted from that treatment. In a real sense I agree that Revis needs to get paid but it will hurt the team as a whole if they break the bank for just one guy.
The Redskins would probably give us two 1st's and Carlos Rogers without blinking and without asking to talk to Revis about a contract first. The Cowboys had two corners at the Pro Bowl last season. They're probably not going to bite on Revis.
Revis is one of the best position players to ever wear Jet Green and he has to be paid period. Does it suck yes but at the end of the day the market has dictated that he should be the second highest paid CB and that is some place around 15-16 Mil. I just hope both sides go about this in a way that does not hurt the team.
