Cough Bold me up the part where I say he was good, seeing as I know you are thinking I am one of the posters who feel Harrison was actually good over his 4 games.
I never mentioned you saying he was good, I was replying to Johnny D saying center is not important and how great Sam was the past r games and him not getting hit. When as usual you jumped in mid conversation having no clue what was being discussed.
I guess I must have misread that bit where you said you were responding to the posters who thought Harrison was good, fancy me jumping into a conversation that I had been discussing on a fucking message board, what a damned nerve I've got at times. Never mind though eh.
Haha what?? How do they use analytics as cover and why did you put the word in quotations? And thise legendary coaches you mention would’ve been even better if they used advanced statistical tools, a technology that wasn’t around in their day.
It’s extremely difficult. I really can’t wait though until the NFL advances out of the dark ages. Analytics has been great for baseball. Just great. I’m sure our Jets will probably be the very last team to evolve though
WR is a need however the need is more for a # 1. The first three or four rounds should be dedicated to the positions we discussed and I don’t think Mac should reach again in say the 6th round for another WR experiment . We have Robby, Enunwa, Chowder, etc . #2s and #3s......Robby is the de facto #1 for now if he can’t handle it then it becomes a true hole and they will have to find a bonafide #1 next year it looks like. Next off season LT and #1 WR will be the gaping holes to fill...
JonnyD is right. Absolutely right on the center position. He’s also right that for all the bitching about Harrison, nobody can really say why he is a liability. Harrison can play center for this team, I’m not worried about it. Fuck I worry 10x more about the right tackle position. They really want to let Brandon Shell step in to that role again? You spent the farm on LeVeon Bell and the most important run blocking position, you just roll with Brandon Shell again. Yikes
He's a liability due to the pressure he allowed straight up the middle ,the hits, the sacks, and the fact that the QB can't step up in the pocket. That's why he's a liability. What more needs to be said? Personally I'd rank the tackles as 1&2 and C as 3 over guards in order of importance. Most o line coaches use the Center to help mask deficiencies in the guards. Bottom line, O line is only as good as the weakest link, Harrison is a very weak link.
Definitely don't want to see Mac reaching again for a WR or any position. Edge should be the first pick, given need and prospects available. Center and CB should follow. Let's see how the draft plays out then worry about next year.
Yes a #1 WR is needed but you never know when a WR prospect is going to become a #1 or not.There is a ton of value in rounds 2-4 at the position & beyond just being a #1 there is a massive need for a physical rebounder on the outside given Darnold’s playing style IE throwing to the boundary as well as leaving the pocket & going off script.He needs someone who can work back to the football & box out defenders. I dont think this need takes a backseat to any other w the exception of Edge/center. Id place the need of corner below it for a few reasons. 1.Assuming edge is addressed the overall pass defense should automatically be better 2. Theres good young competition between Jones,clarke & Nickerson w Roberts as the safety net 3.Gregg williams has used Zone schemes almost as often as man in his coaching career. If zone becomes prevelant w what the team already has at Lb/Safety & the improved pass rush the downside of one corner position being suspect could be limited.
WR depth is always needed. If we're going to be a modern passing offense, we need at least 6-7 WRs on the roster who can contribute on the field. I imagine that Gase has some 3 and 4-WR offenses. Right now, the Jets have Anderson, Enunwa and Crowder. Enunwa has had some injury issues and Anderson has missed games as well. Neither Bellamy nor Burnett should be counted on for much. There are a lot of good WRs in this draft. Yes, a #1 WR is a definite need, but there could be some very good WR prospects available in the 6th or 7th round. I think the chances would be better of finding a WR who can contribute in the 6th or 7th round than it would be a S, DE, LB, OL, C, etc. WRs that could be available in the those rounds are: Keelan Doss, KeeSean Johnson, Emmanuel Butler, Jamarius Way and others. If Mac doesn't trade down, I could see the picks going like this: 1 - OLB 3a - C 3b - CB or WR (if they can take Mercole Hardman, he's a great PR) 4 - CB or WR 6 - TE or WR (Returner) 7 - STs If they trade down, it could go something like this: 1 - OLB 2 - C 3a - CB 3b - WR 3c- RB or OG 4 - OG or RB (if they take Tony Pollard, he's an excellent returner) 6 - TE or WR 7 - STs
And we can;t sign all the FAs we'd like too for many reasons stated many times. But I would not give up any one we signed/acquired this off season for one of the centers that were available to this point. None.
I resepect your opinion very much and you seem to know more football than I do but I htink a lot of " experts" would disagree with you about center being more inportant than guards.
I can live with Miles Boykin in the third round that guy is gonna be good - I can see him being Sam’s # 1. Of course usually when I like a specific player in the draft the Jets don’t draft him. That being said the Jets or any other team will never carry 7 WRs on the roster. There’s only so may roster spots to go around. If the Jets drafted one of those names you mentioned in the later rounds I wouldn’t mind they are decent players . But remember as of now they only have 6 picks and while WR depth is needed it is pretty far down the list at this point due to the gaping holes at other positions. And time is moving along - I don’t see any trades as of yet .....it’s making me wonder how realistic it is.
We need more weapons for Darnold as much as we need CB's IMO. If we land Rock Ya Sin into round 3 and Josh Oliver or Jace Sternberger in round 4, I'd be thrilled. We can get a blue chip WR in 2020 with 2 very good TE's.
Thank you, you know what your talking about as well. Opinions are what drive the forum ! I can speak from the high school and college level, o line coaches will generally use their least athletic lineman at guard. I'm sure many will disagree but it's what I have experienced. I know most disagree with one opinion I have regarding o line and that's how I feel right tackle has become as, if not more important than left tackle in the modern game. It seems like every DC has his best pass rusher lining up opposite the RT as it's the shortest path to the QB, as well as the side the ball is on creating more strip sacks, not to mention if your going to lay a hit on the QB, better to hit him on his throwing side. A bruising non throwing arm, shoulder etc can be played through. Hurt the throwing arm and chances, are he's out or ineffective.
