It's all a crapshoot. Mayfield could be the next Brees/Wilson. Rosen could be the next Peyton Manning/Tom Brady. Darnold could be the next Romo/Rodgers. Or they could all be nothing.
Is our future heaven or hell ? It all hinges around the QB we select. May be it's just me, but the countdown to the draft this year is as slow and painful as it could possibly be. For the first time in probably 12 years this is not about which is the best pick for us, with many good choices across various positions, but rather which is the best remaining QB at 3. Period end of story. This is huge. We are mentally trying to analyze the top candidates and talk ourselves a wonderful game of "what if" but truth be known even if we had the first pick we would end up with a hung jury. We are finally getting a QB, a fact that should make us all extremely happy, but instead we can't help but fret unmercifully over the obvious question. Which one? We have been waiting so long for this moment the mere thought of making the wrong choice is gut wrenching. This decisive moment can set the stage for a long and extremely bright future, or, God forbid, years of watching the QB or QBs that slip past us haunt us for ever. I'm personally getting too old and can't stand any more "shoulda, coulda, woulda, had Marino stories" At this point I would feel happy If we get at least another Kenny O Brien type, and sourround him with some real talent in the OL. Anything better than that and I'll be in heaven. Anything less and the history of the Jets repeats itself with a few more years of hell. Don't let me down Mac.
I often agree with you, but have to disagree on a few points here. While analytics overwhelmingly put Mayfield #1, they don't capture the whole picture. I went back and reviewed some more game tape, and some of the comments posted by guys like SolidGoldBowles and Legler, and while I didn't change my mind and decide that Mayfield sucks, I did see some of the holes in his game, especially when he's under pressure which he wasn't faced with often. Under pressure he tended to break out of the pocket quicker and his accuracy began dropping significantly. Now he can certainly learn to handle pressure better, but the point his that his gaudy stats are the product of him usually being able to have time to throw, which he almost certainly won't have that much time in the pros. Darnold is not the safest pick. He's a scrambler and prefers to be, rather than play from the pocket, and when he freelances the rest of the team doesn't know what he's going to do, so he'll create chaos. Also, his elongated throwing motion is going to hurt him much more in the pros than it did in college. Allen's ceiling is higher than you give him credit for, although I do agree he has real bust potential as well. I also rewatched game tape of him and see where he can make good, accurate throws, and is tough to bring down, but he also seems slow in his processing and timing, and I don't know if that can really be improved much. If he goes to a "Aaron Rodgers Situation" where he can sit and learn for 3 years or so he might well become a FQB. I see the Giants (or the Patriots) as prime places for him to succeed. If Rosen is as fragile as everyone who knocks him claims he is, I don't believe he would be pursuing a football career. Go and watch game film of him and see how he moves around the pocket avoiding the rush. His hits usually come when he scrambles and then tries to make a play instead of throwing it away. I believe this is something he'll quickly learn to do in the NFL. As for his "attitude" issues, I think these come form sour grapes of people who don't like him being a free thinker. Frankly, his "attitude" is a big reason why he should be on the Jets. Anyway, those are my 2 cents.
Well, that's good news to me because Pauline has been dead wrong this entire offseason. Chosen Rosen, come on down.
I agree let see Hackenberg throw a pass before we try and trade up for the #3 pick in the draft. Oh wait that happened already. Let's see if Hackenberg can even get into a game before we label him a B-U-S-T. Sorry my bad that hasn't happened yet. Lets just draft Barkley and forget about a QB.
http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/art...nfidence/f30664b8-a227-4c6d-8b99-7830531089fe The bolding in the article is mine. Baker Mayfield: Short in Stature, Not in Confidence Posted 2 hours ago Ethan GreenbergNYJets.com Contributor Baker Mayfield may be better known for his appearances in the headlines, but the 2017 Heisman Trophy winner took an uphill battle before reaching the apex of college football. A former walk-on at both Texas Tech and Oklahoma, Mayfield only fielded scholarship offers from Florida Atlantic and Washington State after starting two years for a prestigious Lake Travis HS program that became the first Texas school to win five straight state championships. When the time came to decide where he was going to play his college ball, Mayfield and his father were at a crossroads. “He wanted to go to Florida Atlantic and he was sort of afraid to tell his dad because he wanted him to go bigger,” said MMQB’s Robert Klemko, who has written a multi-part series on Mayfield. “His dad said, ‘You can do better than this. You’ve been able to prove people wrong your entire high school career. Why not walk-on somewhere you want to go?’ They got into an enormous argument about it because Baker wanted to go somewhere he was wanted and at the end of it, Baker decided he was going to walk on at Texas Tech.” The 6’1”, 215-pounder had his decision immediately validated as he was named starter. He went on to throw for 2,315 yards, 12 touchdowns and nine interceptions for the Red Raiders and earn Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year honors. In his first game as a collegian, Mayfield threw for 413 yards and four touchdowns against SMU. Davis Webb eventually relieved Mayfield due to injury and Mayfield transferred to Oklahoma following the 2013 season. Due to Big 12 Conference transfer rules, Mayfield was not eligible to play in 2014, but walked on for the Sooners in 2015. He threw for 3,700 yards, 36 touchdowns and seven interceptions while completing 68.1% of his passes and won the first of his two Burlsworth Trophies, awarded to the nation’s top player who began his career as a walk-on. In three years as Oklahoma’s quarterback, Mayfield put up videogame numbers as he completed 69.8% of his passes and threw for 12,292 yards, 119 touchdowns and 21 interceptions. He finished his collegiate career as the second most efficient quarterback in FBS history (behind Sam Bradford), a two-time first-team All-American, AP Player of the Year (2017) and the Heisman Trophy winner. “He was so smart in how he went about winning those two jobs,” Klemko said. “We talked about the hard work and all of the preparation he had to go through, not knowing if he was going to get an opportunity. But he also talked about making sure you’re asking the right questions, not just so you’re getting necessary information but so that people know you’re asking the right questions and having people notice it. “I think he was really great at putting in the work but also being noticed and recognized for that work. People say he’s not enough of a CEO or a politician to be an NFL quarterback. I think the opposite. I think this guy is crafty as hell.” Questions surround Mayfield’s off-field past as he was arrested in February 2017 on public intoxication and fleeing charges. The maturity concerns then bled onto the field. Last season, Mayfield planted the OU flag at midfield of Ohio Stadium after taking down the Buckeyes 31-16 and made an obscene gesture toward the Kansas sideline after a handful of Jayhawks players refused to shake his hand at the opening coin flip. “I tell them the true story," he said at the Combine about how he addresses the incidents with NFL teams. “When I got tackled by the cops in Arkansas, I tell them the true story. When I talk about planting the flag against Ohio State, I talk about how it was an emotional win. That was one we worked over a year for after they embarrassed us in our home stadium. And then when I talk about the Kansas thing, it’s about me drawing the line and being professional. “If I want to be a franchise guy, there are certain things I can’t do, but I’m still going to be competitive and passionate. That’s what has gotten me to this point and I talk about it. And I’m upfront about it.” Coincidentally, Mayfield has leaned on former Jets quarterback Chad Pennington at different points throughout the draft process since the Reese’s Senior Bowl in Mobile, AL. Klemko believes it was important for Mayfield to meet Pennington at an early point of the offseason. “I think Baker has found, in him, an impartial ear and somebody he can bounce things off of and somebody he can get advice from,” Klemko said. “And Baker knows he’s not coming from a place of trying to benefit of off his success or piggyback off of his name. One of the things Chad has tried to do is curtail these instincts in Baker that lead people to think he’s not the CEO type.” Aside from maturity, some pundits believe Mayfield’s stature at 6’1” is a red flag. While he’s drawn comparisons from Johnny Manziel to Drew Brees, perhaps the biggest concern among evaluators pertains to the quarterback-friendly offense he ran in college. Klemko believes it’s a bit of a stereotype, specifically for signal callers with a lot of experience in a program with a particular coach in that offense, e.g. Mayfield and Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes, the No. 10 overall pick in 2017. “Just from speaking with Baker, I know that he got a real sense from the Jets in their visit with them that it wasn’t a boilerplate interview,” Klemko said. “They already did some research and watched a lot of film of Oklahoma football and Jeremy Bates was already putting together some offensive concepts that would translate to the NFL from Oklahoma in the event that they did draft Baker. That interview really stood out to him because they were doing some of the same things that I was doing with [Sooners coach] Lincoln Reilly in trying to learn what Baker’s responsibilities were and how quickly he could take on information at the next level.” In fact, Sirius XM NFL Radio’s Jim Miller not only likes Mayfield’s game but the idea of a potential marriage between the Heisman Trophy winner and the Jets. “I think that’s really the system in the NFL that’s going to fit him the best,” Miller told Eric Allen at the Annual League Meeting. “He has great feet and it’s timing and rhythm in the throws. His accuracy allows a lot of run-after-the-catch potential because he’s so accurate. Then of course, when plays break down, he has the natural instincts to really find a sweet spot in the pocket or extend the play with the ability of his legs to make moves on the run.” Although slighted for his stature, one thing Mayfield is not short on is confidence. After being labeled a system quarterback in high school and college, Mayfield’s background as a two-time walk-on fuels his fire, but his success has proven he can bet on himself. “I think it’s become clear he’s closer to being a top-five pick than a top-15 pick,” Klemko said. “There are teams that probably would’ve taken a look at him but aren’t willing to trade up into that spot. I would say that list is probably five teams at this point. I think you have to consider the Bills and Dolphins, but they would have to trade up early in the first round. I’d say the Jets, Broncos and Browns are probably your top three in terms of candidates for Baker.”
