Tony’s O: "I'm Excited About the Possibilities"

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  1. soxxx

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    The proof that Schotty sucked is easy, Brees, Rivers, Favre, Pennington all had career years the year after they got out of Schottys system. Favre did great in Minnesota, Pennington did great in Miami, and Brees did much better in New Orleans and Rivers was did great post-schotty.
     
  2. NYCKNP

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    That's definitely true that after they no longer had Schotty on their backs, these QBs had their breakout years. However, it's not guaranteed that Sanchez will have his breakout year, but if it happens that's great. If not, I won't be surprised.
     
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    The proof gets slightly harder when you take this into account

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
     
  4. GreenWhiteandGold

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    A) In an insightful interview the fo were impressed with is vision for offensive football and revelled in his ability to put forward strategies that were as yet unknown in the nfl but filled the fo with a belief that he was 10 years ahead of his time.

    B) Someone owed his old man a favour

    Ill take a chance on B
     
  5. Zach

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    At that time, his track record included:

    1. Drew Brees struggling - which consequently led to Chargers burning yet another 1st round pick on QB with Brees on a roster. (At that time he was QB coach.)

    2. His college career, which is nothing to speak of.

    So I highly doubt option A could have possibly been the case.
     
  6. al_toon_88

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    I thought Mangini was a good defensive coach. His last year, we completely shut down the Cardinals in embarrassing fashion, and they wound up in the Super Bowl.

    I believe we started out 6-1, with quality wins over NE and TENN. If Brett Favre doesn't tear up his shoulder we probably make a playoff run, and then who knows...
     
  7. EastVillager

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    I've been reading a lot about Sparano, and the main thing I think I've gathered is that he is a guy who likes to keep things simple. Sometimes overly simple. After a game in 2010 Ed Reed told reporters the Dolphins had such a simple offense the entire Baltimore defense knew what they were going to run on every snap.
     
  8. Zach

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    Larry Peccatiello knew Cowboys were going to run Lead draw on any given play - and he still failed to stop it. Simplicity isn't always a bad thing - and it's especially demoralizing if you know it's coming and yet can't stop it.


    Mangini's 2008 campaign had the Jets D ranked at flat 16th. That's where mediocrity lives. Wade Phillips? As a defensive coordinator, 2nd this year.
     
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    Simplicity is a great strategy when you have a shatteringly good offensive line and Emmitt Smith running the ball... and also Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin to prevent people from loading up the box.

    Nick Mangold might end up in the Hall one day but who else besides that is up to the early 90s Cowboy standards?

    When you have holes on your roster like the Jets do people are going to attack them and you need to have creative solutions to take advantage of those attacks. The fish's right side of their O line sucked last year, too. Got one QB nearly killed and they never fixed it. Gruden was saying during the draft it was the worst pass protecting offensive line in the league. Where was Sparano's solution when the Wildcat got shut down?

    Not saying he's going to fail but he'll need to be more creative than he was in Miami. Other teams were laughing at their predictability.
     
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    I am not saying Jets OL is anywhere near the Cowboys OL - but consider this. Two seasons ago, when Rex first took the team, he preached that his team will run the ball - and the entire offense stayed true to it. With the exception of the RT, the line produced very good result. That OL is still intact with exception of Wayne Fucking Hunter. It remains to be seen how Jets address that issue from now till the start of the season, but if Jets find a sensible solution, then it stands to reason that they will go back to their power running roots, no? And Jets in 2009 finished with 1st in rushing as well. Now, tell me how that will not work out.

    On top of that, consider this:

    1. Cowboys offense produced very good result with Sparano as OC, logging 5th in the entire league.
    2. Jets managed the top spot at rushing talley with that colossal mutant shit of running system, and a full-fledged donkey named Schottenheimer calling the shot.

    Add these two - and tell me how that will result in worse result than the piece of shit Schottenheimer produced last year.
     
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    The Cardinals game? Kurt Warner had 472 yards 2 TDs 3 INT. That's the game Favre threw 6 TDs.
     
  12. EastVillager

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    That line also had Faneca. Low level Faneca, but still. I'll take low level Faneca over Matt Slauson.

    One other thing. Sparano was NOT the OC in Dallas in 2006. He was the running game coordinator and called the plays. Sean Payton coordinated the passing game. Running game wise, that team finished with 4.1 YPC (14th in NFL), 1936 yards (13th in NFL) and 21 touchdowns (3rd in NFL).

    Whoop. De. Doo.
     

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