Tom Brady suspended for four games Overturned!

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    What if Brady held a press conference (THERE MUST BE A PRESS CONFERENCE) and admitted he cheated from the beginning and tried to cover it up? Would we, as Jets fans take the trade off of no suspended games vs the self admission of cheating, thus putting a self imposed asterisk on his career?
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    The Pats surrounded them with cash and newkicks.
     
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    Had he admitted it from the start and apologized this would be so much less of an issue. The fact is, we would be debating how much of an advantage he had and whether his (guessing) two-game suspension was enough. But by week six it would have been ancient history. This situation was poorly handled. The turned a big but ultimately benign rule-bending into career suicide. I guess thats hubris.
     
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    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Danny boy socks it to patsychopat nation

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/28/shaughnessy/T32IKjU6IVYjEWml2YfrMI/story.html

    What do you say now, Patriot fans? Still think the NFL is out to get the Patriots? Still think Tom Brady is clean? Still think this is a witch hunt?

    Of course you do. And that is why at a time when you should be embarrassed, you are probably emboldened.

    Please. Give up. It’s time for local loyalists to parachute down from Planet Patriot and get in touch with reality. Stop twisting yourselves into knots to justify the petty crimes and cover-ups of the Patriots and their quarterback.

    According to the NFL, the Patriots cheated. They tampered with footballs after the balls were approved by game officials. The NFL terms it an ongoing “scheme.’’ It’s not a huge transgression, but the tampering was done to gain a competitive advantage. It appears to have been systematic. Tom Brady knew about it, then he destroyed evidence.

    Sorry. Obstructing an investigation by destroying evidence doesn’t play in America. No matter what happens now, the hard-earned accomplishments of Brady and the Patriots are tarnished.
     
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    Waaaaah the NFL who has given the Pats everything has finally called them out on their bullshit for once.
     
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    Grasping at straws, Patsfans-style



    Pats fans side with Brady

    Posted: Jul 28, 2015 8:29 PM EDTUpdated: Jul 28, 2015 8:29 PM EDT
    By Joe Kayata, NBC 10 Sports
    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -
    New England Patriots fans were decidedly critical Tuesday of the NFL's decision to uphold the four-game suspension of quarterback Tom Brady in the "Deflategate" scandal.

    The Pats fans NBC 10 found at Gillette Stadium all had the same opinion.

    • "Just being a fan and seeing the guy and the high character he's been for 15 years, I have a hard time believing that he would do everything they're saying," one man said.
    * "I thought it was a load of horse poop," a woman said. "I think that Tom Brady deserves better. He shouldn't need to be suspended. I think it's just dumb."



    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Brady ordered an assistant to destroy the quarterback's cell phone even though investigators wanted access to text messages.


    • "Maybe he just got a new phone and just didn't need it anymore. That's what I'm hoping," a fan said.
    • "It just doesn't seem like he would do that unless he was influenced by one of his managers or even a lawyer," another said.
    what saps :D


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    Dan Shaughnessy hates the Patriots and has for a very long time. It's pretty rare for him to say anything good about them. Not that I'm disagreeing with him in any way, mind you.
     
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    And I think it's safe to say, had the Pats taken *some* responsibilty initially, the league would have been very happy to apply a much lighter penalty and move on.
    Brady could have said something like 'the guys were trying to please me by softenung the ball for me. I dont know how they did it, but i knew it was soft. I shouldnt have allowed it and i take responsibility.'
    Then he's the standup guy taking one for the little guy and still taking deserved ownetship which satisfies the league and most fans. Of course fringe superfans and Vegas is angry but that blows over.
    The Pats instead went on the offensive assuming they could bully their way out and thats why the league went medieval on them. Not shocking at all.
     
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    Billups Bellichets and the Tom Br*dy scandal
     
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    NFL offered Brady 2 games for guilty admission
    PFT's Mike Florio reports the NFL offered suspended QB Tom Brady a two-game reduction on his four-game suspension in exchange for a guilty admission.
    Per Florio's source, Brady had to admit to having knowledge of whatever ball men John Jastremski and Jim McNally were doing to the footballs, admit to failing to cooperate with the Ted Wells investigation and then apologize. Brady's ban would have then dropped to at least two games and possibly one. It appears Brady is dead-set on taking the NFL to court to get his suspension wiped out completely or he's going to take the heat and sit the four games.
     
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    What's Brady's incentive to admit guilt at this point? That does him no good at all. Now he at least knows what the league's number is, he's better off protecting his legacy by letting the lawyers negotiate him down to 2 games. He's always going to be able to say the Wells report is flawed, and dickless Pats fans who desperately need to believe that are going to believe it. All he has to lose is two games. That's nothing to him. At this point he's smart to stand his ground and let the union earn its dues for him.
     
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    The judge will not grant a summary judgement here. The cba argument is well laid out in the 20 pages inc,using how the latest punishments were handed down. I think Brady will be left holding his small folds here
     
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    Meh, that's not really that persuasive an analysis.

    It's really something how little critical thinking sports fans engage in.
     
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    This is the story that won't stop giving (to the lawyers). This could be stretched out another year or maybe be in the courts forever. Boomer E. predicted Brady would play this coming season. And he might be right. Hope the fed judge tells Brady to stick it where the sun don't shine.
     
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    Don't know if this was answered but if he used imessage even if the nfl had the power to subpoena most likely those messages wouldn't be recovered anyway. imessages are encrypted.

    But seriously 10,000 messages?!
     
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    Man. You guys are really fucking dumb.

    Brady is taking one for the team here.

    The abuse was systemic.

    Kraft,Beli and the Cheatriots are being protected.

    Read Goodells brief.

    Under Article 46, this decision is the full and final disposition of the dispute, and is binding upon the players, CLUBS and PARTIES (hence the NFL) to this agreement.
     
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    Surely with being world famous, about to end a football career and possibly beginning a political one (which disgusts me personally) you could imagine there are plenty of reasons not to turn your cell phone over to a very demonstrated leaky ship when every camera in the world is pointed at them?
     
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    No Shit Sherlock, where'd you park the squad car?

    See above.
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    Goodell gave the Cheatriots a pass.
     
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