Tom Brady suspended for four games Overturned!

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  1. benhamean

    benhamean Member

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    Strong.

    I may be a moron, but I've had some college physics and have been to medical school. You?
    I think I comprehend the ideal gas law just fine.
    Pressure, volume, and temperature are all inter-dependent. Lower the temp, but keep the volume the same, and pressure goes down. Increase the temperature, but keep the volume the same, and pressure goes up.
    Simple as anything.
    The kid's balloon did not have a constant volume, so it decreased and increased as the result of pressure changes that occurred with temperature changes.

    Your alternative explanation- TEH CHEATERZ! MORON! FOOL! is an interesting one, and one that I'm surprised hasn't made it into more curricula.
     
  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I thought the drawing was an accurate depiction of that metro, pussy Brady. His skin wouldn't look like a catcher's mitt in drawings if he didn't get spray tans like a woman.

    all that was missing was the uggs and his man purse but other than that she did a pretty good job IMO
     
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  3. AugustWest

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    That's a great example, anything can happen in a court of law.
     
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  5. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Brady Cheats....Tells a radio station 'now i have heard everything' day after reports come out
    Brady Denies any wrong doing... media ask questions, brady says, "I like my footballs a certain way"
    Belichick hosts a science class
    NFL begins investigation
    The 'deflator' is revealed in text messages between Patriot equipment manger and ball boy..Text messages reveal "Tom" "needle" "footballs" "deflator" "don't worry, not going to ESPN yet", "cash and new kicks"
    Brady lawyers up
    Brady team refuses to turn over text messages and emails
    NFL hands down 4 game suspension to Brady and punish Patriot organization
    Kraft "We reluctantly accept the leagues punishment"
    Brady appeals
    Brady loses appeal and public learns Brady destroyed cellular phone (evidence)
    NFL files motion to New York federal court
    NFLPA files in Minnesota
    Minnesota rules New York will win the case
    Schefter reports Brady open to punishment, for not cooperating only
    New York has two hearings where no settlement is reached

    Unless the judge rules in Brady's favor (i don't know how?)..this is heading to another court and will continue to cloud the Brady 'legacy'. NFL is not budging, there will be no deal. There is preponderance of evidence from the initial investigation for an arbitrator, within the current CBA, to make suspension ruling. This is a second offense. Where Belichick is widely overlooked for his part, 'ignorance is not an excuse' precedent set on Sean Payton, avoiding suspension/permanent banning from NFL.

    The people deserve to have confidence in the integrity of professional football games.
     
  6. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Berman's a hand-wringing pussy. . . . What a let down.....buzz kill.....blue-balled.

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    You are ignoring, destroying the phone, the weird texts from the equipment guy (the deflator) the weird press conferences by BB and Brady, Kraft demanding an apology literally a day after sating they would fully co-operate. These are not the actions of people with nothing to hide. I don't disagree that the 4 games was GODell overreaching but do believe the punishment should be higher then Brett's do to a repeat offense (spygate) and a single game sounds right. You have failed to touch upon my main point which is the not guilty as appose to innocent verdict i am predicting. In MOST cases destroying evidence is considered an admission of guilt and will be the reason he is found not guilty but not innocent. This use of language will cause this debate to continue despite both sides being entrenched and in some ways both correct. Also, Please explain to me what the NFL had to gain by dragging one of their marquee players through the mud the week before he was about to play the super bowl? What could Roger possibly have against Kraft who up until this looked to be one of his best friends and puppet master? The league is suddenly out to get the Pats after holding them up and making them the flagship franchise for the last decade?
     
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    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    he's not even a P*ts fan, he's a Dolphins troll just trollin away... pathetic.
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    So there's a Fins fan arguing with a Steelers fan about Tom Brady on a Jets message board? Seems normal.
     
  11. JStokes

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    And that picture of him holding Brooklyn's goat hostage.

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  12. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    really? he seems to be bringing the patsfans stuff directly here after there.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    trolls can be a head scratcher for sure. kinda like a steelers fan that is so obsessed about brady he goes to a Jets message board to troll.
     
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    but you know i am not trolling you guys, only the pats trolls, trolls don't like that
     
  15. benhamean

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    You ignore the media shitstorm that the NFL created with selective and misleading leaks- one after another-, necessitating the Patriots being inundated with stupid questions about this stupid topic incessantly while they should have been locked in on Seattle.

    The above were the actions of members of a team ambushed by bullshit.

    The phone is a total red herring that Goodell trotted out as another PR move, because his 'evidence' is garbage.


    Brady was not implicated in Spygate. No repeat offense (even if you grant that there was an offense)

    The judge is not buying this obstruction of evidence angle- because it it BS. The NFL got everything they wanted, never warned that not giving the actual phone was a problem, and again- Favre is the precedent even if you grant the 'obstruction' point (which nobody with any rationality should- Brady testified under oath for hours, gave Wells all the numbers and texts he wanted, just not the phone- and with all the leaks, you can see that was wise).

    Berman in court yesterday was all over the NFL- did you suspend him for the pressure of the footballs, or being uncooperative? What part of the suspension was for what? WHERE IS THE PRECEDENT for this?

    Its a load, but apparently the PR was sound- you are among many that are taken with this 'angle' (propaganda).

    Roger Goodell is hanging on by his fingernails. He has effed up a large number of high-profile discipline cases in a row, and is HELL bent on not losing again- because he'll be fired. The NFL jumped on something they thought they could make some redeeming-credibility-hay with, and got caught in the web of their own ineptitude.

    This whole case is not about football pressure, cell phones, or anything but the ego of Roger Goodell. Well, maybe the extent of his powers under article 46 of the CBA.

    Also, you may not see this from your perspective but the NFL has not been 'holding the Pats up as a flagship franchise' for quite a while. If you notice, almost every year they win, the league institutes a new rule to give the other teams a chance. This year is no different. The NFL wants parity more than anything, and NE denies them this.
     
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    So why does Kraft accept punishment, and why does Brady accept suspension for not cooperating?
     
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    Kraft is 1 of 32, and capitulating is what he's contractually obligated to do. Like it or not, Kraft is part of the NFL in this matter.

    The NFLPA willing to accept suspension is bag-lapping a judge who wants to see both sides come to some form of agreement so he doesn't (and shouldn't) have to rule on the matter. The NFPLA is showing their willingness to prostitute themselves.
     
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  18. New England Patriots

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    Brady does not.
     
  19. Jets_Grinch

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    1) The Pats have never given into any media shit storms. BB could have given his usual we are on to the Super Bowl and put a muzzle on the team. They chose to respond and they chose do so in such an odd manor.
    2) he wasn't directly implicated but the Pats were sternly warned not to mess with the integrity of the game again. Admittedly under this it should have fallen on BB's head but if the rumour is true (that he was warned in writing any more offences he's gone) that would mean banning him from football which is a much bigger PR nightmare.
    3)I'm not taken by an angle. He destroyed a cellphone as instructed by his lawyer that they knew was going to be asked for as evidence. That's not an angle that has been proven as fact.
    4)I am fully on board the fire GODell ship and have been since he destroyed the spygate tapes. He has fucked up so many times while running this league and it doesn't matter which team you cheer for because it is a fact. But Kraft was one of his biggest supporters and before all this easily one of if not the most powerful owner in the league. It makes zero sense for him to destroy the relationship that when things are at their worst could be his safest haven.
    5)what rules? The Pats pushed to keep headsets off defence then spygate happened. After Brady's knee blew out on a play that was legal at the time you now can no longer touch a QB below the waste. In fact you can barely touch a qb anymore which for the first few years of these rules looked to only get called in favour of Brady and Manning. Brady and Manning are the ones that pushed for teams to supply their own. if the league supplied balls to the teams this entire mess wouldn't have happened.
    6) New England denies them parity? One Super Bowl in over a decade is denying them parity?
     
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