Toilet Bowles has got to go

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  1. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    It was like watching 22 other NFL guys wearing Jet unis on the field. Morton won this game by neutralizing the Dolphin pass rushers. I think if Morton were here last year, Petty wouldn't have taken the beating he did.

    Hail Morton!!
     
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    He even showed some fire when the refs called the holding penalty on Johnson to nullify the long run by Powell.
     
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  3. Cman68

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    I saw that... Figured Blowes may have even uttered an obscenity... nah..
     
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    Didn't get a chance to watch the game. Can some here sum up how the LB corp looked? What players made one look up and notice, in a good way?
     
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    They primarily played a 4-3, Davis played an excellent MLB and was hitting the holes perfectly, Jenkins was playing a sound strong side.

    The line of Ealy, Bass, Wilkerson and Williams was beastly and not allowed the oline to get any push, they made the Dolphins one dimensional.

    Lee was a disaster as well, late hit to Cutler was his most impressive play, I have always believed in giving players the benefit of the doubt but he is just playing bad at this point.
     
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    I didn't get to see the game (not unusual here), but it sounds like they were inspired. I'm not going to piss all over success (unlike Beckham), and will hope that this signifies a turn around. But it is only one game, and Jax looks pretty powerful after what they did the Ravens. Let's enjoy it while we can.
     
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    Rex lucked his way into 4 road playoff wins?
     
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    And "lucked his way" into two playoff losses. He was a one-dimensional coach, not a HC.
     
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  9. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Rex was a really good head coach for us during that two year run. You can't take that away from him. He coached the team very well, and beat Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in the same playoffs.

    Not sure how he lucked into that stuff. He's a good coach if he's given the players to succeed. He doesn't develop players well which is why he's not a head coach that can have sustained success.

    But let's not take away from what he did...
     
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    I disagree, he's not a good HC. What coach wouldn't do well if he has the players to succeed? And he certainly had a big say in the players he had. Idzik relied on him for input into who to get - his fingerprints are all over those rosters. And who was it that decided to put Sanchez into a meaningless preseason game and hasten the end of his career? As much as winning those two games, he lost the subsequent ones due to poor coaching. I'm not saying he's the worst coach they ever had, but he sure wasn't great.
     
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  11. HomeoftheJets

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    Give Rex a stacked roster of high character vets previously coached by a tyrant before the rest of the league has adapted to his scheme, and he'll take you to back to back AFC championships. Otherwise not so much.
     
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    The Dolphins still lack chemistry, but I really don't think they are a bad team. Obviously you are right though. We saw some good things today, but it's just one game.
     
  13. BomberJet

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    You know, my take from this win, even though I didn't see the game, it has all the makings of the type you can write off as an aberration. They're playing on the road against Jacksonville next so why do I get the feeling it will be like the 1st 2 games? Bowles has to be held accountable if the team goes back to it's egg-laying ways. Don't mean to sound negative, just that one has to put this in context...these are the Jets.
     
  14. Linebacker712

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    Rex wasn't a horrible head coach...he just wasn't a great one. He had some good traits:
    -He was very encouraging of his players and would always go to bat for them. They seemed to love playing for him (most of them, at least), and that is a needed quality.
    -His defenses were excellent when he had the right personnel.
    -He could get the team up and ready to play big games, and the Jets pulled off some pretty improbable wins against much better teams during his time.

    However, he had serious issues that he never bothered improving upon either with the Jets or the Bills:

    -As has been pointed out, he basically wanted to be a defensive coordinator with the title of head coach. Had no idea about how the offense should run, and if I recall, he even admitted it.
    -He was very rigid in his gameplanning and use of personnel. If he did not have the right personnel for his schemes, his defenses were mediocre at best.
    -Always seemed to get cocky after big wins, leading to big losses. I remember 2013 when two different teams were alternating almost every single week.
    -His teams lacked discipline. He also seemed to love bargain basement shopping for players with attitude problems. If a decent talent who had a reputation for being a locker room cancer was on the free agent market, you could guarantee that Rex would scoop him up.
    -Seemed content with mediocrity. Would say "a win is a win" after the team barely won a sloppy game against a weak team. Did a victory lap at the end of an 8-8 season where he missed the playoffs.
    -Didn't seem to understand "ground and pound" offense. It works when you have an excellent running back. It does NOT work with an average running back who runs constantly because the shitty QB can only complete passes to the other team.
    -Had no ability, or maybe no desire, to develop young players. As much as Rex was considered a defensive guru, most of the 1st round defensive players we drafted were major busts.

    A good coach knows how to work with his players, how to use the team in a way that brings out its strength, stands behind his guys, but also expected discipline, how to bring a rookie from college ball to the pros, and he learns from his mistakes. Rex did none of this.
     
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    I am no fan of Tb but you need to give the guy credit because he had the team ready to play and didn't make any boneheaded blunders. It is a small step in the right direction let's "hope" it continues ....
     
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    If he continues to play McCown ahead of Petty I hope a bus hits him (not literally of course). I do give him credit for making adjusments, and if he were to start playing Petty more I would cheer him on. But his insistence of going with the guy "Who gives us the best chance to win" is going to cost the Jets dearly in the long run.
     
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  17. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I think the biggest issue with Rex, as you said, was his inability to adjust. Not only at half time but throughout the season. He kept running the same blitz packages that the entire league had already figured out.

    That and he didn't develop players at all.

    But my point was that we cannot take away from what he accomplished for us. Those were the best two Jets seasons in my life time.

    I think we could've had another like that if we didn't completely dismantle the offense by replacing damn near every target Sanchez had just so that we could assemble our $50 million secondary. But that goes on Rex as much as it is on Tanny, because that's what Rex wanted.
     
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  18. grkmanga31

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    Bowles had his best coached game yesterday but I still cannot get on the keep Bowles train. Haven’t seen him coach well consistently to warrant confidence. Long season ahead so if can change but I guess we’ll see


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  19. Linebacker712

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    Agreed. Changing one's stance on a coach or player after one good game (or one bad game, for that matter) will usually lead to major disappointment. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. If for some reason the team wakes up, and we have an improbable playoff run, I'd be apt to give Bowles another year. But I just don't see that happening.
     
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    Yep. Bowles was inept last season and games one and two weren’t exactly confidence inspiring. Yesterday he had the team playing great. Still don’t like some of his personnel decision like healthy scratch for Hansen and Stewart disappearing. He knows he’s coaching for his job and player development is probably not a priority


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