man, we spend somewhere around 140million, to improve by 2to4 wins? thats some return on investment. with the schedual we've got, if we don't make the playoffs i'm gonna set myself on fire!
I think we should add the Chargers and Browns to the list. The Bills. Broncos, and Texas are going to fight it out with us and the worst of the above list for the last playoff spot. I expect 6-8 wins as well.
It's easy to pencil teams in the playoffs in April but all 5 of those teams are one missed block by a lineman and a shot to their quarterback away from being maybe not out of the playoffs but sure from a lock.
You can rest assured 4 out of the seven named teams will go to the playoffs. The other's will be fighting it out for the obligatory one and done first round playoff loss. There is a huge drop in talent from the top teams in the Afc and the rest.
Why do people insist on bringing up how much we spent as a reason why we should win? I mean: 1. We know little to nothing about the contracts. 2. What HAS come out showed us the contracts were nowhere near as ridiculous as some people make it seem. 3. "Only" 2-4 wins makes us an 8-10 win team...thats not exactly embarrassing...
I would have rather been embarrased from 2006 until now so the Cs would have had to gut this team from the bottom up and totally rebuild. We would have had good picks and hopefully some studs ready to play. Trying to be respectable has gotten us to this mediocre mess we are in today. If all goes well the best we can hope for is a one a done playoff loss. The goal is to win in a championship and mediocre is not going to cut it with Brady, Manning and Lt in their primes in the Afc. Not to Mention the Jags and Browns are on Deck for the future. A meaningless win last year against the Chiefs cost us a chance at definitely getting the player we wanted in Dmac or Gholston plus better seeding in the second round as well. Our quest to be respectable has kept us bad for four decades.
Dude we have like the best pick in the whole first round...we're bound to get one of the best players in the draft...we don't pay him top 5 money...and since we're in such a nice spot we're pretty desirable to trade up with... And we've got the 5th fucking pick of the second round...how much better seeding could we possibly want? Sounds like your problem is you're so locked in on getting one of two players that anyone else will disappoint...
It's the "Must lose to improve" mentality that drives me crazy. Where is it published that if you tank for a few years and then have high draft picks, that you will succeed. We've seen time and time again that the draft is quite unpredictable. You can pick a gem later or at the end of the first round that will be far superior to anything in the top 5. Ask Oakland how they really feel about Robert Gallery, if the 49'ers are sold on Alex Smith, or even ask yourself how you feel about Dewayne Robertson. Hell, look to just last year and what we got with Harris. If people knew then what we know now, he would have gone somewhere towards the first half of round 1. This isn't Madden 2008.
If the draft goes Long, Gholston, Ryan, Mcfadden and Long we will miss out on the two players that would help us the most in Dmac and Gholston. Even if we could have gotten either long they would fill a need. With the six pick we will be skiddish at best looking at at a Cb or taking a risk with Dorsey who is the bpa. Now we will have to try to find a trade partner willing to come up for something that is not worth giving us fair value for. That means they will try to screw us. We are in a position to get screwed good. I would rather have the second pick in the second round as opposed to the sixth one. Sixth is not bad until you realize somebody ahead of you wants somebody you really want and you have to trade away your draft like we did last year to get Harris. Better seeding gives you better choices. Regarding the top five money you get what you pay for. Being Cheap had us sign a Lb that had one good year that could prob be the next Brian Thomas as opposed to spending it last year to get Adelius Thomas. With Gholston, Dmac or either Long we would have gotten an immediate position of need filled with a player that in theory is supposed to be good. At our pick if Dmac or Gholston are gone the three top Cb's are pick em. We could get the best or worst. No De is rated that High.
I think both of them have not the foggiest idea how to evulate how well a college player will be in the NFL
Their is a flip side. The Chargers, Browns, Texans and Jags are ready to compete due to rebuilding through the draft. If you have a good staff it does not take that long. Don't get me wrong there are gems like Harris and Rhodes in later rounds but a few years of being bad with a good Gm who can draft will pay huge dividends down the road. I hate to lose but I hate to be mediocre with no chance to win even more.
Do you regret the Jets trading away some later round picks to get a guy like Harris? Let's not piss away that 3rd rounder- as we could be parting from talent like Anthony Schlegel.
I do not regret it at all. The question is would you rather have had a one and done playoff loss to the Pats because of an easy sched or had a higher pick in the second round so we could get Harris without trading the pick and used our 3rd rounder to get an OT so we would not have had to look at a human turnstile at tackle last year.
Sorry, I'm not buying what you're selling. The draft is a risk and you can just as easily have a first round bust...Saying that your team should be in the shitter for 2-3 years to be competitive means that you aren't a true fan.
Im a true fan that wants to win and realizes that it does not come over night. If somebody bet you 1,000 bucks right now that the Dolphins would be in a better position to win a Sb three years from now due to the picks Parcells makes over the next three years as opposed to the Jets would you take it? How many Football teams have you seen buy Championships?
You know normally you & I are sought of on the same wave lenght but after that draft where BP picked 4 duds for us in the 1st round I am not sure of your post. Mixing vets who CAN play with youngsters is not such a bad route to a CHAMPIONSHIP. If you look at who we signed 2 players have better then average resumes & 1 has a 1 year A+ resume so if he & Jenkins worked out & are just medium upgrades then we are way ahead in the game of building a team. Now if Man & Tan falter & pick another AS i this years draft well then your argument becomes far more valid. By signing those 4 players gives our FO an opportunity to now fill in other vital holes & which may allow us to dump even more of the garbage that is still on the team making us stronger & allowing us to compete at a higher level
Parcells is not the draft Guru you make him out to be. In fact, his draft picks for the Jets pretty much sucked. I'd take that bet and raise you another $1,000- that's how little confidence I have in him running a draft. Should we check out the Dorian Boose highlight reel? All 3 frames of it...
I have no problem with mixing Vets with Young Players. That is what is usually done when teams have rebuilt and they are ready to go all the way. The problem I have is with our Vets. On Offense Coles and Thomas Jones are on borrowed time and we will not even speak on Chad. Richardson is almost 40. Those are four Key positions on Offense that have to be replaced sooner than later. The fact of the matter is they will prob be gone when we are Sb ready. With the exception of Revis, Harris and Rhodes Im not sold on any other defensive player.
