Our fanbase will NEVER accept rebuilding. Read the posts on here or observe the general attitude of Jets fans. Personally I wouldn't mind a rebuild with a new GM and what not, but I do like Rex Ryan. I think he was able to get this team to overachieve his first few years here, before Tannenbaum started fucking with the formula too much and bringing in cheap but cancerous talent. Hell, we were looking good Thursday night until that stretch of total absurdity. The true problem with this team is the lack of talent, and it has been. When we went into win now mode this is what was the result of all of it. We're hamstrung with questionable contracts and bad moves, and that falls at the feet of Tannenbaum. I don't think any coach could lead this team to this record right now. Jacksonville has more talent at their skill positions than we do, for fuck's sake. Our offense is truly where this team fails, the defensive side is still salvageable and there are plenty of young players who I can see being impact players in the long run (Mo, Demario, Ellis, etc) but I think if we can upgrade the QB, RB, and get one reliable deep threat we could compete again without having to go through a major rebuild. It'd be sort of a "soft reset". If we do go with a rebuild we need to draft a QB maybe in the draft after this years and cut the bad contracts this offseason sans Sanchez (major cap penalty). Gonna have to trade Revis and possibly other pieces for picks if we're going to do a rebuild right. A rebuild doesn't guarantee automatic success or even a turn around, an in fact can lead to a decade or so of bad teams, but if we're going to do it we're going to have to do it the right way no matter what happens. I don't think this fan base can be that patient and the New York media will brutalize this team during that period which will make a lot of stupid things happen, much like now. Shit, if Chicago could stay with Lovie Smith for so long even though he's been all over the place record wise, I don't see why we can't stick with Rex and get rid of the real problems. Plus, do you think Rex says the same shit he says to the media to his players? Hell no. You think Belichick is some boring asshole who is humble and always pumping his opponents tires? Hell no. I don't know what you guys expect Rex to say? "OH WE FUCKING SUCK. FUCK SANCHEZ AND TEBOW THEY BOTH SUCK DICK. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT." People would still bash him, hell I'd bash him if he spoke like that because I hate when coaches act like that. We need a new GM and new blood on the field. I'd say Rex should consider getting a more offensive oriented OC next year and a new QB coach and see if they can salvage what they can with Sanchez in his last year (I assume we'll cut him next offseason when the cap penalty is a lot less damaging), draft an outside LB who can create havoc on the outside or a franchise running back who is more versatile (can catch, be elusive, also can lower head and go) and we could probably get solid free agent WR (I think Hill is going to be ok, just needs more polish. Kerley seems like he's going to breakout when he gets a better QB throwing to him) and we need to replace Moore and Slauson.
One big problem though is that much of the trouble isn't about talent, per se, but execution. That's a result of bad coaching.
How is poor execution result of bad coaching? The jets have NO ONE worth giving a second look on offense. The Jags have MJD, the chiefs have Charles and Bowe and have worse records, who the hell is going to execute with a bunch of practice squad guys. :rofl:
disagree. there is 3 players on offense that would start for most teams. we have 8 players that would be depth. that means our bench would be on most teams practice squad. we have a starting qb that should be a backup, a backup qb that no one wants. even though he won a division and a playoff game. on defense, we have had the same pass rush issues for years now. wasted a 1st on gholston and still havent been able to fill that need. the whole lb corp has aged and the only lb drafted in the last 4 years is 3rd demario davis. the safties are huge injury risks and there has been no real effort to bring in youth there either. another evidence of lack of talent is the special teams play. when your roster is thin teams suffer the most. this is evident this year as westhoff has never had less than a respectable unit.this not a coaching problem this s a gm problem and the gm must go
Is this the same ny media that most of the people on this site call jerkoffs or douche bags, like cimini, meyers and francessa? If so, who gives a shit what they or flip-flopping fans think! Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
i cant stand that men (rex) when he said those stupid things like that,he got to go,thats it hes done,gabage! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
^offer him the defense when he doesn't take it, offer him the door. Rex got a one year pass for the 'Tone show he created last season, idiot! It was a cool ride in the beginning. Old school Rex would have burried a football or tied a rookie to a goal post by now; and talk shit to every reporter. Robot Rex, robot Sanchez and "simple Tanenbaum" need to go! Blow it up!
I like Rex alot,,,,that said,,,,blow it up he is in over his head. This team has talent issues, depth issues and very big leadership issues. They lacked leaders in the AFCC game against Pitt, and it only got worse as they now have characters and NOT leaders. Start over and get some real talent evaluators here and some good players and lets get out of this circus atmoshere and back on the right track ! I am not sure who Woody needs to hand the keys over to but he needs to step back and give someone control of this mess,,,,,,,now in the center ring ugh!
"Execution" isn't really about talent, ability, yada, yada, yada. Guys on the practice squad can and do "execute" all the time. It's paying attention to the details and the fundamentals. It's based on discipline. For example, some practice squad guy weighing 180 pounds might try to tackle a 220 lb 1st team RB. He'll come up, wrap the guy up, but not be able to bring him down. Not being able to get the guy to the ground is due to physical size and ability, and possibly, talent. BUT, that he wrapped the guy up and held on speaks to execution. When you have LBs and DBs completely blowing coverages, that's not lack of talent, but rather, lack of execution. Same thing when you see guys out there arm tackling when in position instead of wrapping a guy up. Or when you see Slauson pull on a run, yet he passes up the guys that he should block and goes and helps block someone who's already being double teamed All of the above are symptoms of coaching problems. BTW, I'm not saying that we don't have a talent problem as we most definitely do. BUT, that said, the guys we do have aren't executing even for the talent level that they possess.
I do too. The front office isn't honest so it's hard to tell who's more of a problem between Woody, Rex, and Tanny. I'm inclined to say Woody and Tanny both, but Rex seems to be a blustering mess that could be an equal part of the problem. None of us would have dared to say this two years ago though.
why does anybody care what a handful of idiots w/an agenda tweet? the opinions on this bd are more important than those tweeting clowns.
There is just a lack of talent on this team from top to bottom. It's going to at least 3 or 4 great drafts just to get back to a decent 10-6 type team.
I agree with someone who said in another thread, the more weight he loses the worse he coaches. I want the fat Rex back. He is truly a faction of the man he once was.
Interesting line. Lack of execution and lack of talent, it's hard to draw a line to see which is what. Missed tackles could be lack of execution and coaching, but lack of talent could lead to read the play a second late and be parallel while tackling the runner instead of front. Very thin line in my mind.
