I said that after we won SB3 & saw that statement go up in flames when we lost to KC in a PO game @ Shea in Dec 69 & have now been waiting since then. With the ownership/management we have now I would say ur kids are in for some wait sorry to say
No just asking U as a supporter of "Godlike VG" what happen to this dynamite player. Brick still cannot run block worth a damn. He will NEVER/EVER be a dominant OLT in this league so at the 4th overall pick in the draft he is a semi bust. My son word for him is "serviceable" which says very little of his skills
Nor mine. I mumbled to my wife for like 15 minutes about Brick & then when I heard Golic thoughts about Brick I really went wild
I agree, and I am still in the dark about how everyone, both here on this board and the "experts" as well saying cutler was not worth a 4 overall. Excuse me! Now, clearly, ferguson was not worth a 4 overall either, but we have him instead. If we had taken cutler and he turned out to be thrash, we everyone would say we reached and missed! I am guessing the end result is quite the same then.
You mumbled to her? No wonder she stays with you, she can't understand wtf you are saying. Good job :wink:
I make it just a tad worse sorry Byran Thomas instead of Ed Reed. Then there is also the flashback to the DeW fiasco
Cutler hasn't been to the playoffs yet, if he was a Jet he'd already be featured in champ's signature. Plus, he stepped into a 7-4 team for Plummer in 2006 and promptly took them out of the playoff picture, this year he was at the helm for an epic choke. Not writing him off just yet, but he's no Joe Flacco. :up: On topic, luckily for me this 40 year spell began just before my 2nd birthday, which means I still may live long enough to see it end. I hope so, because I don't remember shit from when I was 2.
Ken Obrien over Dan Marino is the greatest Jet Disaster of all time. Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp is a close second!
We can play the hindsight game all day, every team can. Any guy that went late first round was passed over by a bunch of teams, all 32 teams can compile the same list.
At the time the teams that needed Qb's picked John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly and Tony Eason who were supposed to go before us. Dan Marino should have been a Jet and we blew it. That one goes on us. When we passed on Sapp the whole place was screaming Sapp and we take Kyle Brady. We blew that one too. If you look at our history we have a habit of picking reaches instead of guys who are ranked by the rest of the world ahead of who we pick all the time.
True, and the Sapp one is true because we said it at the time. But the Marino thing, we had Richard Todd in his prime who had just taken us to two playoffs, won a couple on the road and had the one bad game in the mud. QB was not our need at that time, O'Brien was to be a future project. Where we went wrong was firing Walt Michaels and going with Joe Walton, who was believed to be the hot assistant at the time. He dumped Todd for O'Brien, who really wasn't bad. Would Marino have been better? Sure. Did we need him for a Super Bowl run at the time? No, because we had just made one without him and Todd was only 30.
I agree with all of the above but I would have taken Marino because he was the BPA and could have been groomed to take over. I think a large part of our teams failure over the last few years has to do with out handling of the drafts each year. Good Franchises have good drafts. I wonder what our success rate with our higher picks to other teams is. We have had alot of duds. Gholston being the latest.
I always heard that the reason the Jets didn't draft Marino was because there were rumors that Marino had a drug problem, and that he had a knee that was suspect.
Stupidity? We had a complete team that lasted for the next 5-6 years--huge on both lines, a young McNeil, Todd in his prime, good WRs, Shuler at TE. I thought the secondary was our weakness at that time, maybe there were no good DBs at that point in the draft, I don't know. Maybe they thought they were so set and they loved O'Brien that they could get him and have him learn the ropes behind Todd. I fault management for firing Michaels and not improving the team as it was, but not drafting Marino isn't the reason alone. Of course you can look back now, Marino's in the Hall of Fame and killed us for 15 years, but nobody knew that at the time. Think of it in terms of the 1983 Jets who had just gone to the AFC Championship game, could play with anybody anywhere, and what was needed to put them over the top for 83. A QB of the future wasn't the need, be it O'Brien or Marino.
Over the years, 1983-2005, yes. Back then Michaels drafted an awesome team, the dummies fired him. I think Tannenbaum has also brought in mostly good players, he's only had a couple drafts and we have a lot of good guys. Gholston is the exception--Leon, Rhodes, Revis, Harris, Keller, Brick, Mangold, Smith, all good players. Jury is out on Clemens but maybe they save the day with Ratliff, who knows?
