Hate? I see no hate here. My comment that he was a huge disappointment is the only negative thing I see, and I didn't hate him. I just expected a lot more out of him. He turned out to be pretty soft. He dropped too many passes, couldn't block that well and disappeared for long stretches in games and for long stretches of games. The fact that he is the best receiving TE we've had since Mickey Shuler is just an indictment of the sorry ass scouting depts. and GMs we've had over the years.
Bull! Chis Baker was an amazing recieving TE. Go back and play Madden 2004 if you don't believe me!!!!!!!!! Madden is always right, right?
McGraw was our consolation prize for passing on Ed Reed in the first round. I still cry about it sometimes.
Lions TE Matthew Mulligan released. Just saying is he worse than Kellen Davis? I've actually seen him catch the ball.
Expecting to see Sudfeld as our starter week 1. Until Amaro decides to get his head together, if ever.
Have you forgotten that he was here before and how he stunk up the joint (6 receptions in 34 games over 3 seasons)?
Hate being a loose term for dislike, disappointment, however you want to word it. He was a quality tightend, a safety valve for our young quarterback and had enough speed to stretch a defense, which most tightends do not possess. He wasn't a great blocker, but he was a capable enough one to the point where he was a piece of the run blocking unit that finished top 5 in rushing in back to back years. That doesn't happen without a quality edge blocker. I also tend to think you're grasping and pulling the drops tidbit out of your ass to fulfill your argument. In 2009 he finished 57th in drops, okay 20th in 2010, 122nd in 2011, and 158th in 2012 in drops. It's not a very easy statistic to track down, but I do not remember it being much of an issue with him. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2009/
Hate is NOT a loose term for dislike. There's a world of difference between the two. At any rate, I didn't dislike him, was just disappointed in his actual production. He was a player I really wanted the Jets to draft. I thought he would be a real stud for the Jets in the NFL. He wasn't. He was pretty good to good, but DID disappear for long stretches. I had forgotten, but he also missed a lot of games. In his first 4 seasons he started only 43 of 64 games. In 2012, his last season with the team, he only started 5 of 8 games. If you can't remember his disappearing in games, you need to go back and watch the games when he was here. It doesn't matter how fast he was when he disappeared in games, couldn't get open, or dropped the ball. If you thought he was the greatest TE ever, fine. I disagree. I don't "pull things out of my ass" to justify a position, but I should have expected such a fabricated cheap shot coming from you. I should have known better than to respond to you to begin with. You have proven yourself to be a petty person who clearly doesn't like me and looks for things to criticize whenever you deign to respond to one of my posts. I specifically remember his dropping passes. He may have been decent when compared to all the TEs or receivers in the NFL, but when watching players play I don't run to look up stats to see how they compare with other players at their position in the NFL. I trust my eyes, and consider how much they help or hurt the Jets, and what their potential is. My eyes told me that he dropped too many passes, however many that actually was. He didn't drop many at Purdue if memory serves me correctly. It's also interesting that you quoted his rankings and not the actual number of drops he had in each of those years in regards to the number of passes thrown in his direction. In 2009, he had 5 drops, 45 receptions out of 82 targets, and only 2 TDs. In 2010, he improved to 55 receptions out of 101 targets, and 5 TDs, but had 7 drops. 2011 was his best season in terms of number of receptions, but had a huge number of targets. He had 65 receptions on 115 Targets, 5 TDs, and only 3 drops. In 2012 he had 28 receptions on 36 targets, 2 TDs, and 2 drops. He averaged 11.9 yards per reception which is pretty good, but his receptions per targets ratio isn't very good imo. I also don't think it's that good when a player has more drops than TDs. He never had a 1,000 yard season. In his rookie season (2008) he had Brett Favre throwing to him. The rest of his career, he had Sanchez and Kellen Clemens throwing to him. IMO that casts his receptions/targets ratio in a much better light. He was definitely hindered by his QB and was pretty good in spite of that, but imo looks better than he was when comparing him to other Jets TEs of the last 20-30 years. My main frustrations were that he never lived up to his potential and had issues staying healthy.
This is why we should always trade the 2nd rounder for a proven player. 1st round : Defense check 2nd round: Mind numbing pick 3rd round: Oh wait this is a draft let's get our shit straight Every year.........
Bro. When you've admitted multiple times you only tune in to a couple Jets games a year, then come on here and write these essay of posts with so-called analysis, how can anyone take it seriously? I really don't get, how with everyone full well knowing you barely watch games, you expect anyone to value what you say about the games you don't watch. It's bewildering. If you wanted people to think what you say is anymore than fabricated bullshit determined on a box score, you shouldn't have admitted you barely watch games... Keller had incredibly inaccurate quarterbacks throwing to him. He had soft hands, and enough speed to line up in the slot, while enough grit to line up on the line and toss a block. He wasn't all-world but he was a good player with plenty of versatility. Your memories must be jaded by the air-mailed throws over his head delivered by Sanchez that count as a target. He was also very good on third down.
It often felt like there was a mandatory 5 yards and loss of down incurred just by putting Milligan on the field.
You're a liar, and one of the most petty persons I've ever had the displeasure of having a conversation with. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously or even want to respond to you? Your word doesn't mean anything. I don't give a shit what a dumbass like you thinks about my opinion. My only mistake is in being too forgiving and being willing to give people like you continual chances to prove that you can be a decent human being. It's not in my nature to hold grudges, but I will definitely make an exception in your case. I've given you way more chances than you've ever deserved. I haven't admitted any such thing. I've said that over the last 3-4 years I've only been able to see a couple of games a year because the Jets aren't shown down here very much. Prior to the last couple of years, I saw most of the games and during the time Keller was with the Jets, I saw every game, so quit lying and trying to make it sound like I don't care about watching the Jets and have never watched many games. As a rule, I don't write or speak about things I haven't seen, but when I do, I am honest enough to qualify it. You accusation is an effing lie trying to discredit my opinion. You're the one who is so pathetic that you lie on a fan site to try to make yourself look better and to discredit others. I'm not gonna lie or make up shit to have something to say on an internet discussion list. I'm not a pathetic POS like you. I'm done with you. You aren't worth even the little time or energy it took me to write this response
Not sure if this was pointed out already but this thread title is epic, but to get back on course I read on Espn article one guy saying he wouldnt be surprised if Amaro was cut. I def would be surprised,once again you dont give up on second round picks that have had some injury issues and have shown they can play. We also have to remember his rookie year who was throwing him the ball and the other receivers that were around smh. Please cut Davis and Keep Amaro and Sud if we need blocking that bad put a extra lineman in that simple.
I'm a little slow, I didn't get it until you just pointed it out. Shows where my drug addled brain is at. Not related to your post and still off topic, but I thought it funny, another poster says they can't watch but a couple of games a year because they are not in the NY area. I've been in Florida for 27 years and miss maybe 1 game a year, 2 if I am traveling at the time. Hell, I was in USVI for the Jets/Pats game last year and made sure I found a bar with the game on. And if someone calls you out for only watching 2-3 games a year, don't call them a liar in the same post admit you only watch 2-3 games a year.
