To The Mark Sanchez Defenders

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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I'm also a MS defender, however as the saying goes the QB gets too much credit and too much blame.

    I have no problem with the Jets looking elsewhere though, the problem we face as a team is having the same FO that put us in this mess trying to clean it up, and that will not happen.

    I don't think the philosophy is wrong of good defense and ground and pound, the problem is you have to build from the inside out, Oline and DLine first followed by explosive RB's and good LB.

    So far the Jets picks have not fit into this philosophy.
     
  2. NYJets82

    NYJets82 New Member

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    Probably his eyes. It's painful enough watching him pass on television, I can only imagine the suffering he must go through from a first person point of view.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the man doesn't yet have a losing season in this league, we can start there but he's still young, he's had success, helpe us reach 2 title games, has most playoff wins in team history(double the QBs tied for 2nd place) so no I'm not quite ready to jump ship yet.
     
  4. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Junc, again, you're completely ignoring the point. If you don't think the Jets had a top 5 or top 10 defense in 2009-10, I don't know what game you're watching.


    The point is that the Jets built themselves around running the football and playing defense. Rex has said that from day one. The passing game was the worst part of the Jets in both 2009 and 2010. Tell me what part of this paragraph is wrong.
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I never said anything about top 5 or top 10 but people act like they were the '85 Bears, it wasn't a dominant unit, it was a good to very good unit.

    The pass game won us many games in 2010 especially when the run game faltered like it did for most of the 2010 season.
     
  6. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    It's just tough because the Jets have absolutely nothing offensively. Can you think of a team with worse skill position players than the Jets without Keller and Hill? Now take out Holmes (and put in Keller/Hill), it's just as bad.

    Steve Young, Bill Parcells and Trent Dilfer have all brought up similar points on radio today: How can you evaluate your quarterback when nobody is getting open? If nobody is getting open, and there's no running game to take pressure off, how can you evaluate the quarterback? This offense is putrid. Sanchez is a part of that, but other than the elite quarterbacks in the NFL, very few QBs would have success in this offense. If you put almost any other young quarterback who hasn't proven anything yet in this offense, we would have bad results, too.
     
  7. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    i think you evaluate it just like that. if you have a qb who has shown glimpses when he has a great run game, good skill players and top defense, but whom looks terrible when he is surrounded with no talent then you know what you have

    and what you have is NOT an elite top QB.

    tom brady, rodgers, brees. they would make the guys we have look alot better
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    This franchise is a complete mess right now. I fear it will take years to get it headed in the right direction, because there is so much denial still going around. Woody talking on Bloomberg about things being more important than the Jets winning. Hey he's entitled to his opinion, but I wish we had an owner who felt that the Jets winning was the most important goal, and who held his FO people accountable. Which Woody clearly does not.

    Fire Tanny, bring in a real football guy. I'd prefer right now that person keep Rex, but only if Rex can make an honest assessment of the dead wood on the team. If not, we'd probably be better off with someone like John Gruden. (Probably would anyway.)

    Sanchez? Yeah, he's not the only problem. But he's not the answer, either. If the team needs to be rebuilt, it's better to do it with a Qb who can help the new players coming in get better. Sanchez makes other players look worse.

    The reality is he's not yet about to be benched, but if this keeps up he won't last til the end of the season.
     
  9. PatsFan2003

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    Brady did win championships with the likes of David Payton, Troy Brown, David Givens and David Wiggens so it is possible. (But then I'd take any of the above over the Jets current set of receivers.) They had no one yesterday. I think any of the QBs mentioned would have still lost yesterday.
     
  10. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    In the good old days, the turd that Sanchez shat upon the field yesterday would have landed him on the bench.

    But in Jetsville 2012, he gets a couple days off to "look in the mirror".

    Wanna know what Sancho sees in the mirror?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. jets4lyfah

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    Junc is a righteous dude. ppl need to listen up and stop trying to scapegoat MS
     
  12. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Its all very true. hell,they didnt have to go crazy bringing people in. How about starting with one guy sanchez had a chemistry with...edwards. I don't think he is near elite reagrdless,but he is better than we are seeing.
     
  13. Jake

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    Offense has been terrible 3/4 games but at 2-2 I do not want to see Sanchez benched yet.
     
  14. TNJet

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    In 51 regular season games Sanchez has a career 55 INTs, 31 fumbles and a career QBR of 72.9.

    Sorry numbers don't lie.

    Let someone else play QB.
     
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  15. TNJet

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    Seneca Wallace 62 regular season games career 18 INTS, 9 fumbles anmd a career QBR of 81.3

    Seneca is available and better than Mark.
     
  16. TXJet

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    Sanchez gets one more game as far as I am concerned. Another flop and we bench him.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Mark Sanchez:
    29-22 reg season record
    4-2 postseason record

    Seneca Wallace
    6-15 reg season record
    0-0 postseason record


    I don't care about fantasy stats.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    ^ :rofl2:".................

    Junc with the vicious uppercut.
     
  19. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    The only fantasy here is saying that Sanchez has NFL skills.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    yep, clearly he cannot play in this league.:rolleyes:
     

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