The 2009 and 2010 Jets ranked 17 and 13 in points scored while the defense was in the top 10 both seasons I believe. They may have backed into the playoffs once but they were 11-5 in 2010 and as both seasons playoff games showed they were clearly a threat.
those teams had a top tier o-line led by brick and mangold and faneca and pounded the ball to protect sanchez.
Just figured I'd chime after I chimed in yesterday (but before the game). To me, all this complaining is kinda weird. Psyche! I didn't say it then, not saying it now. This thread will live on in infamy is a decent guess.
The abysmal way our OL played last night I don't think it would have made any difference if Rodgers had played. Sure he would have audibled out of some bad play calls, but unless he got in offensive players faces and told them to quit fucking up with the stupid penalties, dropped passes, lousy blocking by the OL, he would probably have been knocked out of the game by half time. The OL was that bad. I really can't even blame all the OL, however, because Turner shouldn't have been on the field and Mitchell or a better OT should have been at RT. Trading for Rodgers precluded JD from really doing anything to fix the OL (aside from Tippman) or WR corps (except Hardman, and either he couldn't learn the offense or there was some problem) as Rodgers wanted Lazard, Cobb, Hackett, Cook and he had limited cap space and had missed out on the top OTs. It probably would have helped if Orlando Brown had signed with us (I doubt it could have been any worse unless he got injured too). This team is just cursed.
it really does feel that way. everytime we think we have a legit shot our QB goes down right away 1999 vinny popped an achilles game 1, the year after we went 12-4 and was up 10-0 at the half of the AFC champ game 2003 chad pennington blows out a rotator cuff getting tackled in preseason. the year after he took over a 1 win team and made the playoffs and stomped out the colts 41-0 in the playoffs 2023 rodgers blows an achillis game 1 not to mention the fave year when we were cooking and he got hurt and tried playing through it and sucked down the end and we missed the playoffs. then he left to take minn to the playoffs the injuries the last few years though have been ridiculous. we can't stay relatively healthy at all. and it's all freak injuries on normal looking plays. i mean GVR got pushed into bectons knee and he missed basically 3 seasons over it. AVT has been out 2 years in a row now. danold got mono and missed a month. zach has missed some time. mike white got hurt every time he came into play. it really never ends
Regarding the last few years, I think once there's a certain frequency/regularity to the injuries, they cease to be "freak"
It was the wrist in 2003, and he came back as good as ever, so the football gods knackered his rotator cuff as well. Twice. Just to make sure. The football gods are absolute mother****ers.
Yep, Chad broke his hand/wrist.... Then tore his shoulder falling extending his arm with the ball trying for a first down vs the Bills (if I remember correctly)
As the OP, let me restate my reasons for the post, even after the miserable game on Monday. The team was built in the offseason for AR. If anyone feels that was not a good move, not talking hindsight, than I don't understand their thinking. We've had poor,poor QB play for years, and with our defense, an AR led team should translate into many victories. Without AR, we are essentially the same team as last year, with a slightly improved, but still poor QB. Not a good team. BUT, but, THAT NOT GOOD TEAM IS AT .500, AND HAS BEATEN 2 TOP TEAMS WHILE STILL BEING IN THE RACE. the post was not meant to imply we are good, it was a form of praise for a poor team that is playing competitive football, in spite of injuries. Complaining about the state of our offense, which has pretty much the same players with a seemingly just as poor offensive coordinator, is just rehashing comments from last year. This was not the team we were supposed to field. The players haven't improved. AR was supposed to make them better. All teams have problems. Everyone has lost a game and some much more. I have seen more jet losses than anyone. I can complain about injuries, I can complain about lack of depth, I can complain about a host of things, but for the most part the team on the field tries hard and is competitive for the most part. The players are the players. That I can't complain about. Do I wish they were better? Do I wish AR was the QB? Anyone can answer. I don't know why italics are appearing. cant figure out how to stop that.
the Jets are not cursed. Some people drink too much Joe Douglas kool-aid, others were snookered by the Jets marketing engine, both groups thinking they were better than they are The Jets were 7-10 last year and having a similar season this year
Well, herein lies the problem. Any serviceable scrub decidedly better that Zach Wilson could've been planned around in light of their limitations and still been successful given the Jets overall talent. We're not talking muclear fission and string theory here. Zach Wilson is not serviceable enough to be planned around at this juncture. He just isn't; but I sometimes stare around in an empty room wondering precisely who to blame. How about everyone. No way the Jets almost choke away the Giants game and then choke on a whale bone let alone a fish bone vs the Chargers of we had a serviceable back up. I'm not chest-thumping about being right that the Jets we're gonna bite it on Monday night. It was right there that it was going to simply write itself and it certainly did. The other serious part of the problem is that Nathaniel Hackett is a Rodger's puppet without any insight or talent of his own. He's a friend who caters to Rodger's address: Flake Central. They probably meditate about past lives when Rodger's fought alongside Attila, whose blood flows through his veins! Of course since Rodgers went down in a Jetsy way like only the Jets can Jet, they are dead in the water. Why? Zero ability for disaster recovery because no planning for said disaster in the first place. No Plan B. Forget about prior ludicrous SB talk. No Plan B is a short-sighted, unforgivable fireable offense all on its own. The Jets have an OC who is only here because he listens to Rodger's ashram bullshit, whose playcalling would've been obscured by the clouds of Rodger's dusty farts. Joe Douglas let Woody the Rube elbow his way back into football decisions again = he may as well have signed his own death warrant. Coach Saleh is in over his head. I was never behind the Rodger's signing and all of the above is precisely why. We also might not be having this conversation full tilt in precisely this way if poor Greg Knapp hadn't been tragically killed, but unfortunately we'll never know. Edit: Autocorrect.
What to say to this well written post? You are entitled to your opinion on the sgning. I was tremendously pleased they got on of the best players of all time at the most important position. What was your alternate plan? I dont think knapp would have saved zw. Onlyzw can do that. As far as being dead in the water, they are still at 500. They may lose every game the rest of the year, but now they are in the race. All their preseason plans went down the drain. Imagine the team with ar, corey davis as number 2, less oline injuries and same stout defense. But wedont have that team. We have what we had last year. I cant believe jd didnt try to get better players. It seems we made offers for many. But it takes 2 to tango.
Wrong thread, sorry. Jeez! To remotely explain these three posts, I wasn't only in the wrong thread, I was in the WRONG FORUM. Not sure how that happened. I realized it when I checked the thread I thought it was in to check out other posts. This team is rotting my already compromised brain.
