to all sanchez haters, do you...

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  1. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    People need to also remember this will be the first offseason sanchez didn't have surgery too, which will make a big difference. Kid hasn't had a full offseason.

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  2. vedmedv

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    Everyone here hopes sanchez improves, but eventually u gotta see the truth. Hes in for another year, at least, so we will see. I hope he comes back strong and takes us far but im not gonna kid myself.
     
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  3. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    While I hate the argument that the Bengals backed into the playoffs just like 2 years ago they made it because they won the games they needed to win and the Jets, Titans, Raiders and Chargers aren't because they didn't. Rookie QB, decent RB and 3 very young pass catching targets with an ok OL. I'm a MWC guy so I saw a lot of Ginger in college and watched what I could this year and he might not have the freakish athletic ability of Newton or RGIII but the kid has good head and generally makes very good decisions with the ball. He also has some pocket presence, we'll see what he does next year when that team sneaks up on nobody but I think he's going to be a good not great QB. He'll be in the same mold of a Trent Green, Matt Hassleback, or Jake Delhomme, a guy who wins games and makes few mistakes but is never going to tear the league up with insane passing numbers.
     
  4. TheGreenCantona

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    Ok I am guilty, I don't know if I want Dalton over Sanchez or have ever said that, BUT I think Dalton is a much better qb than Sanchez was in his first year.
    We can argue all day about stats etc, but I think he takes a much larger responsibity of the offense and has been doing it very well. He is calm and collected with a strong arm.
     
  5. Braylon4ever

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    Frankly, I'd rather stick with the Devil we know than the one we don't.

    No matter how you look at it, Mark did provide help in winning 4 Playoff games. Whether it was because of him making big throws when he had to or because it was our Running game or because it was our Defense playing well, it doesn't(and shouldn't) diminish what he's done in his brief NFL career.

    BTW, Matthew Stafford had Megatron and other weapons at his disposal, too....but still LOST. Granted it was to the Saints but that is just proof positive that you NEED A DEFENSE to help a QB win games as well as an Offense.

    And the media was all like "Matthew Stafford is ready to overtake Sanchez with a win over the Saints" or some bullshit I read..... Ha! :rolleyes:



    The offense for Mark was crap because of many factors including Mark being inaccurate, Schotty being the mental midget he is in playcalling, Holmes being the Man-bitch he's always been, plax doggin' it as usual, and so forth....

    I pray that Schotty gets a Coaching gig somewhere 'cause if he does, THEN it will be Mark on the hot seat next season to show us all SOMETHING that says "It was all shotty's fault that I haven't improved as much as anyone expected".
     
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  6. Mason

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    ^ Like I've been saying all along, look at who Stafford has to play catch with. Calvin freakin Johnson, Megatron! The dude soaks up so much attention and still puts up big numbers. He beats double teams like it's nothing to him. He is what makes their offense work. He enables all the other weapons to get open with all the attention on himself. That's what this offense doesn't have. You'd have to be delusional if you think Stafford could come into this offense and make it any better. We get Sanchez weapons(and fire Schotty) and this offense will work. There is no good QB in the league that doesn't have a top flight receiver or a good receiving corps, so we need to make that happen and stop expecting miracles.
     
  7. Braylon4ever

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    We used to have a "megatron" here and his name was Braylon Edwards. Letting him walk was the biggest mistake Tanny made.

    Hopefully he rectifies that mistake and brings him back 'cause he was SORELY missed from this offense.
     
  8. 94Abraham

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    Drew Brees makes the Saints receivers much better than what they really are. They dont have any WR better than Holmes. The QB can often turn a very average receiving core into the "good" status. This offense didnt work even with Braylon + Holmes here so what makes you think it will with Shotty gone even if Braylon somehow comes back?
     
  9. Mason

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    Watch them play. Colston not only gets open, but he makes some very difficult catches, and Graham is at least tied with Gronk for the best TE in the game. Colston isn't out there running lazy routes and failing to get open. Let's not pretend like the Saints don't have the second best receiving group in the league(second only to Green Bay). Colston is a #1 in this league, Graham is the best TE, Sproles is a great option out of the backfield, Meachem and Henderson are two niche receivers whose primary role is to stretch the field, and Moore is a very reliable slot receiver. That is a complete corps if I have ever seen one. They have a player for every role.

    If you count Graham, they have two receivers who are leaps and bounds better than Holmes. Colston has gone over 1000 yards in every season he has been healthy in(5 times), and he's done it as the Saints #1 receiver. Colston actually draws double teams. Amazing concept isn't it? The other team fears him so much that they'll dedicate two players to cover him.

    Holmes has had 1 good season in his career, and he wasn't even Pittsburgh's #1 receiver. Holmes is not a #1 receiver in this league. He's an OK #2/slot receiver, as long as you have a #1 soaking up the attention. We don't have that player. The defense would never even think of having the thought of dedicating two players to cover any of our "weapons". To expect Sanchez to be a good QB with this group is irrational thinking. No good QB, and I mean NO good QB is getting it done with a receiving corps as bad as ours.

    We need to stop bringing in second-rate receivers and surround our QB(no matter who is back there), with some actual talent. We've been picking up castoffs and prison inmates. You do that and you should expect trash results, not filet mignon.
     
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  10. displacedfan

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    Megatron, Fitz, and Andre are in another class of receivers. Do not compare Braylon to them as he is not in that class. It is those 3 and everyone else.
     
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    The other interesting thing that was noted by NBC was that the center makes all the blocking adjustments and identifies the blitz for Stafford. It was my understanding the QB usually shifts the protection and identifies the LB's for the line. Can anyone explain if what the Lions did is normal or not? I feel like if we did for Sanchez it could help him out a lot.
     
  12. Braylon4ever

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    I wasn't saying Braylon was like "Megatron". I was just saying that he was Mark's "Megatron" in the fact that he was a big target whom he had great chemistry and rapport with. The offense CLICKED with him there...
     
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    No you remember incorrectly, our offense did not click, it was just serviceable but just as constipated as it has been the last 3 yrs. The defense was better though.
     
  14. Braylon4ever

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    err....Serviceable but just as constipated?


    Sounds like a Schitty-run offense to me. :lol:



    Seriously...please get this clown out of here! Thanks. :sad:
     
  15. TheGreenCantona

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    I think we are about to find out what Sanchez can do, shotty will not come back. Interesting to say the least.
     
  16. milcus

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    Why do you think Sanchez would throw to megatron more than he has to Holmes? Serious question.

    And, good qb's make people great. Brady made Gronk and Welker. Manning makes anyone look great. So does Brees. Sanchez drags everyone to his level..
     
  17. displacedfan

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    No, any ELITE qb's make people great. Good QB's do not. Brees/Peyton/Brady fall into elite.
     
  18. Mason

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    So your point is that Sanchez is not a Hall of Fame player like Manning, Brees or Brady? They are the exceptions, not the rule.

    Gronk is a great player and would be great on any team, anyone who says otherwise just hasn't watched him play. Dude is a gamer. Brady isn't out there breaking tackles for Welker either.

    The bolded is not a serious question and doesn't warrant a response.
     
  19. Braylon4ever

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    I think this Entire Thread doesn't warrant a response, actually...
     
  20. jets4lyfah

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    dude there's no use arguing with the sanchez haters on this forum. I really don't know what their problems is
     

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