You're right, of course. In addition to being much taller, bigger and stronger than Flutie, Tebow also was a hugely more prolific and accomplished passer in college than was Flutie. Through their first full season's worth of games as a starter in professional football, Flutie and Tebow had an almost identical completion %, but Tebow threw more TD's, had a vastly better TD/INT ratio, didn't have some guy named Herschel Walker in the backfield and Tebow did it in the NFL, not the USFL. By the way, I'm a big Doug Flutie fan, always thought he had the same "it" factor and leadership intangibles that Tebow does and that so many NFL starting QB's lack.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe Flutie couldn't possibly care less about who between the to of them had the better college career. Flutie had a pretty decent NFL career, all things considered.
I'm not concerned about what Flutie thinks, nobody asked. It was said that Tebow was nothing like Flutie, and I agreed, pointing out that Tebow was a considerably more accomplished passer. And you're right, Flutie did have a pretty decent NFL career, especially considering how hard it was for him to get a chance to play, because of his height. Tebow has also had a pretty decent NFL career to date, all things considered. You can try every which way possible to deny that, but you can't get around it. I'd be willing to bet there aren't 5 NFL QB's in the last 25 years (or heck, let's just go with the last 50 years) who have taken a team with a 1-4 record, to the playoffs and won a playoff game, in their first 16 starts in the league.
Maybe not a lot in history, but I think you rely on that too much. I believe 30 out of 32 starting QBS around the league could have done it last year. Defense carried Tebow, not the other way around. Tebow was just lucky, in the right place at the right time. Everyone actually getting paid to make evaluations and personnel decisions know it too. Otherwise, how come he isn't starting if he's so damn great and accomplished what few have already?
No one asked whether Tebow had a better college career than Flutie either. And I don't give a shit that he did.
You guys are awesome. I say tebow is nothing like flutie, you tell me how great tebows college career was compared to flutie, as if I give a fuck, and then you tell me goal post moved. Tebow is a terrible QB. I should have just started and ended with that. Can you tell me how he's magical?
What are you basing that off of. Their point is Tebow is not a finished product and hasn't finished his career unlike Flutie. All we're saying is at an equivalent point in their career (which is only college and 16 starts) Tebow actually had better results. Does this mean Tebow will have the career of Flutie? Hell no, but its beyond ignorant to not see that he isn't a finished product and writing him off is beyond thick headed... no surprise from you though.
Certainly not "magical," but he does have a great amount of in-game tenacity. He has aerobic capacity and conditioning that is greater than anything I've seen in a football player. He does not get tired during a game, he gets stronger. As the game wears on, everyone else shows the worse for wear, but he looks livelier, quicker, more clutch. He has a strong tendency to not get rattled -- he doesn't get rattled by being hit, or the threat of being hit. He has a calm that remains when things aren't going well. He keeps probing, trying things, listening to the coaches. In terms of natural abilities that line up with this -- he has a strong arm with a great amount of residual strength to draw upon. Quarterbacks like Sanchez seem weaker as they get hit and the game wears on. Tebow is like a Terminator robot. He hits long passes with surprising accuracy. And so as the defense gets crowded in, thinking about runs and scrambles, he hits longer passes down the field. These tend to help factor into "exciting" games and "magical finishes." He scrambles around and looks for something -- sort of like young Elway did. So there's this sense that there's always a chance. What he's not as good at are the more conventional things -- dropping back, stepping up and hitting a barely open receiver quickly. He's got to get better at that. But he's really good at all the things that make the game fun to watch.
Actually I can see how you could compare the two. Both will only be remembered for their college career. Both had one decent season in the NFL. Both could not play quarterback in this league. Tebow -- the CFL is calling your name. Follow in the Flutie footsteps.
Umm... I'll just type out the title again. Tim Tebow, God's greatest failure as of yet. Yep. Nothing trolling about that at all.
why? What has he done to make himself a failure much less the greatest or almost greatest of all time. It can't be his play since we never see it so it must be that he is a bad teammate. there are much worse on the team like the ballless ones that talk shit about teammates to the press but wont give a name. Who ever thought bringing in a backup and allowing daily press conferences was a good idea is the failure.
Yeah, but the thread itself it talking about Flutie and Tebow. If it was an argument piling on god and tebow, you'd have a point. Even I wouldn't argue in favor of the title. But I'd say the thread was rescued. nice recovery.
