Three QB Scenarios for 2013 - choose the odds

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by abyzmul, May 29, 2013.

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Pick one

  1. Sanchez gets the job in preseason

    23.6%
  2. Open competition between Sanchez and Smith

    56.2%
  3. Sanchez cut, Smith starts

    20.2%
  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the body of work includes only one bad season where he had the worst healthy weapons in the league.
     
  2. deerow84

    deerow84 Well-Known Member

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    Why am I afraid? This is New York. We have one of the most ruthless fan bases and the media loves negative stories about the Jets. Obviously he's going to have to learn to handle that but he doesn't need to do it day one, he can learn it slowly (probably already is a little bit).

    Rushing him indicates that he's not ready in some or multiple aspects but we put him out there anyway. If he's fully prepared and capable (i.e. wins the starting spot hands down) then go ahead and start him. But if he's not ready, and therefore is being "rushed," I would prefer to wait until he's ready and develop him properly.
     
  3. laxin

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    I think the whole "open competition and splitting reps" is a big misconception... The competition doesn't have to and most likely wont last all of training camp. Its not like that starter will only receive half of the reps throughout the whole offseason. Once the starter is chosen, he will get the reps.


    Although if they feel Geno isnt ready, I still think its in the best interest of the team to give Geno 25% of the snaps with the ones.
     
  4. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Eh... is that why Sanchez sucks? He learned from nobody?

    (Certain QB coach named David Lee says hi. I have to wonder just what his job is, if Sanchez is teaching all the stuff Geno is supposed to pick up.)

    That said, I wouldn't mind open competition - but unless Geno Smith clearly shows he can succeed with the limited help he currently has on Jets offense, I wouldn't risk throwing him to the wolves in his rookie year.

    1. Sanchez says hi.
    2. Countless other rookie QB failures all say hi.
    3. Jets offense is underhanded. This is single most important fact. What part of "UNDERHANDED" did you not understand? Do you want Smith to develop happy feet like David Carr did with Texans? Then you will cry out about how much Geno Smith sucks, right?
     
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  5. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Rather see Mark Sanchez take the hits early on. Similar to the 49ers situation with Alex Smith and Kaepernick
     
  6. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Exactly if he proves himself in camp and preseason then he should start.
     
  7. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    handing the job to one of them will not help the team.
    a decision would have to be made right after the 2nd preseason game to give 3 weeks of prep to the winner,but a competition will be the best way for the whole team to improve
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I don't see how the Jets can not play Geno Smith in 2013 and then not draft a QB from that 2014 class. The only scenario that works in is if Sanchez has a great year, and I don't mean better than what he has done/good, I mean great.

    If they go with Sanchez and he does anything other than prove all the doubters wrong they're going to have to draft a QB in 2014. If not they have an average to shaky incumbent and a young prospect who couldn't beat out the average to shaky incumbent. That's not a situation any smart GM is going to sit on for long.

    This scenario works but it only really works if Geno Smith beats out Mark Sanchez. Otherwise it just leads into scenario 1 above and the Jets are on edge all year long unless Sanchez suddenly looks great.

    This appears to be the best of the bunch of iffy scenarios above for the Jets. If Garrard hadn't retired it would clearly be the best option. Mark Sanchez QB play has been a black hole, sucking the Jets closer to the abyss each season since 2010. They really can't rely on a miracle occurring and him turning that around.

    There are too many questions surrounding every aspect of his performance at this point. There's no one thing he can fix that will magically make the other things go away. He's a mess on the field.

    My guess, and it's just a guess, is that Idzik will clean up the Sanchez mess the way he has cleaned up the other Jet messes this off-season, with a decisive move that may take a bit longer to happen than we'd expect as he weighs his options.
     
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  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    BTW to add to the above: at the moment the Jets cannot release Mark Sanchez. They don't have Geno Smith under contract yet. Releasing Mark Sanchez on June 1st would give Geno all the leverage in the contract negotiations. They have to get Geno signed before they cut Sanchez.
     
  10. Hobbes3259

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    Today. Right now. Sanchez is better than 3 of the first four QBs we face.

    You cant say that about Smith.

    First quarter breakdown.
    http://blog.newyorkjets.com/2013/05/29/two-minute-drill-first-quarter-of-the-schedule/
     
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  11. ArmandJ

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    Yeah, let's use evidence from the official homeristic team site to prove a point.

    If Sanchez doesn't improve (which is a huge possibility), he will be better than 0 of those quarterbacks.
     
  12. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    I voted option 2.

    that said, for Sanchez to earn the job he needs to look head and shoulders better than Smith in camp. hopefully due to good Sanchez play rather than just bad Smith play.

    If its even remotely close, i'd roll with Smith.
    even if Sanchez does get the nod, i'd still roll Smith into the lineup after the bye at latest.
     
  13. Burnz

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    We made it deep into the playoffs like this. I still for one think we might have a chance( trying to be optimistic for the playoffs)
     
  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I disagree on the quality issue. I think Sanchez is clearly worse than Josh Freeman at this point and not clearly better than Locker or Manuel.

    Sanchez is one of the worst starting QB's in the NFL over the last 5 years. He hasn't done anything recently to make us think he's going to move up the list either.

    At some point the Jets just have to recognize that the pick did not work out. Giving Sanchez more reps to prove he's an NFL QB just looks weak after 4 full seasons. He's not going to prove anybody right at this point and there's nobody in the building who is invested in that outcome.

    If the strong Jet teams of 2008, 2009 and 2010 were still around things might be different but they're dust at this point. Nothing Sanchez has done since they crumbled suggests he's going to be able to play effectively in the NFL.
     
  15. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    If Sanchez starts week 1 and throws a pick to Revis MetLife will riot
     
  16. mr nyjet

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    el taco should go. but, you can't call it an open competition if only two guys are in it.

    why not sign a fa vet before camp? sounds like el taco is going to be handed the job again for year 5 in a row, while all this so-called open competition is just p.r. to sell psl and tickets. :sad:
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He was bad last year, that was it. How soon we forget. Freeman has never even had his team in a legit playoff race and he has had as much and more talent than Sanchez to work with. The others aren't even worth discussing.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

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    Hes better than freeman,anyone Buffalo winds up starting and Lockyer.

    What evidence, I was just pointing out who the opponents are.
     
  19. mr nyjet

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    you're assuming the pass makes it to the secondary......more likely, a defensive lineman picks him off in our own end of the field.
    riot?

    can fireman ed perform cpr?
     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    If that happens it will be because Tom Brady threw an INT to David Harris once.
     

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