Yeah I agree with you Murrell. I wouldnt mind if Jones got a little more money AFTER everything else was taken care of. Washington, Mangold, and Sanchez need to be taken care of before anything happens with Jones.
Thats not the way football works on both sides. Players ahve the right to hold out, GM's have the right to release. No one is bound by the contracts. Its not the same as signing one in the bussiness world due to the terms of the CBA. So you should learn a little about why things are the way they are.....period.
I jsut don't see any reason to. Yes, he's a good back, but not a great one. If you restructure now, it would send a bad message. If he had stayed quiet and tried to work things out, maybe, but going public with this was the perfect thing of the Jets brass. They get to pay him his 900k this year and make an example of him in the offseason. Too bad his agent let him sign a bad contract that had 30% of it able to be avoided if cut in the last year.
There's absolutely. I reason not to if we have the cap space to move some of his 2010 salary into 2009.
TJ's contract is what it is... I get that these guys may overachieve based on their contract numbers, but if he or his agent were smart they would have negotiated to have some incentive clauses for additional payouts added into his contract when they originally agreed upon it. One like that pays him a flat award amount if he rushes over 1500+ yards, or gets more than 28 TDs.. or becomes the leading rusher of the league. That would have been smart up front. Crying after the fact that you agreed to contract and feel like you are out performing it is his own fault.
Firstly, it's not like this part of his contract was fine print and it's now blindsiding him. He knew it, inked his signature; now live up to it. Secondly, I don't understand how people can defend him when he was paid handsomely in 2007 for putting up very mediocre numbers. You can blame the OL all you want -- but if you do that, then you can't say he deserves more money now, because then I'll say that that was also a result of the OL; so if anyone should be paid more, it should be the OL, who was the reason Jones led the AFC is rushing. Sorry, can't have it both ways.
I already went thru this with you that his problems in 2007 were the OL. Also the OL are currently being paid very well.
On a side note it really shouldn't surprise anyone that he had a tough year behina horrible OL (he still rushed for over 1100 yards which isn't bad everyone) and that he had a good year behind a great OL in 2008. In the history of the game that's the way it's always been!!!!!
Your making ok points about Jones as a player, but not one good reason why you would give him more money froma bussiness aspect. Why shuold the team continue to invest in him? His skill set is replaceable for much less then the 6 mill a year he is going to make. Leon and Mangold are due to get paid. Brick is not far behind them. Revis's contract will start escalting in a couple more years. We need to save the money to resign the young core of our team, not over pay aging starts ala Terry Bradway. This year you owe him very little for what he provides. Then his contract makes you get rid of him early, before his play drops off and his cap number hurts the team. His replacement is already on the roster. There is no sense in trying to keep Jones happy. He is as good as gone. The only way the plan backfires is if Shonn Greene is a complete failure as an NFL back.
Im not saying invest in him with a contract extension. I'm just saying we should move some of his next year salary into this season. It will lower his next year cap number where we could keep him on the roster if we need to. From a business standpoint it really doesn't hurt us if we have the cap space for this year.
True. I'm hoping they will get a deal in place. I think they will, there's been a lot of success with the league ever since they went to the salary cap.
for those of you unaware of the shonne greene situation isnt the reason he dropped so low in the draft because of a knee issue? many have said hes a short term fix. tj is probably in the best shape for any rb in the nfl. pay the man his due he deserves it after last year.
lol. no. the only issue there was with greene was people worried about him only being a full time starter for 1 yr. so he got the potential "1 yr wonder" label that Rashard Mendenhall got last year coming out of Illinois. fuck thomas jones he needs to go run his shitty R and B record label and stop being the NFL's cutback runner with the biggest arms. he signed the contract he got a boatload for the first two years. now that the third year rolled around he thinks he has leverage. news flash, he doesnt.
yes yes yes do some homework i read somewhere shonne greene has a knee issue concerning many. tj led the afc in rushing pay the man his due nothing more.
Read what I wrote. If it was the OL's fault he lacked production (based on his pay in 2007), then his success last year was also a result of the OL -- an improved OL that paved the way for him. Bottom line, play out the contract you signed.
if this was the case for all nfl players or nyjets then im in agreement but its not. lc the whiniest bitch in nyjets history is proof its not.
The uncapped year could explain why they aren't willing to negotiate. I don't understand the "Pay the man" argument from people. I saw a ton of it with the whole Jason Peters situation before the BILLS shipped him off to the EAGLES. Agents need to have a better understanding of the players when they negotiate these contracts. There should be incentive clauses to compensate players when their productivity increases. Some don't, and that is what causes resentment. Players should not be angry with management, but rather the agent who is supposed to have the clients best interest in mind.
