His inability to move the pile his inability to make players miss once he is in the open field. He got some huge runs on bowling alley type blocks this year. He was terrible down the stretch and the fact that we went empty backfield in short yardage situations in bad weather is telling about what the staff thinks of him. Hard runner, very average not a pile mover or a guy who can get you a yard and a half when you need 1. He would have got zero carries on Miami been a backup in Buffalo and if Mulroney comes back healthy wouldn't see the field in NE. We have a great change of pace back with Leon Washington who needs to be resigned. We need a tough hard pile moving back who wear down teams, move the chains and take the load. Jones is okay but he is not that guy who I would want to team with Leon.
he was terrible down the stretch? really? so down the stretch im assuming you mean the last 5 games, lets look....he averaged 4.9 yards per carry and 4 tds. yep terrible. where u watching the games? other then miami he looked good, but he only had 10 carries in that game. and the fact that the offense went empty back field in short yardage situations tells me that the hc didnt know wtf he was doing with the team and he should be fired, oh, he was fired.
No matter how you slice it, Jones and Washington aren't enough for a dominating run offense. The Giants need 3 and they pass as much as they run. We would definitely need another bruising back.
What do you think we would get for a 30yo RB? We dealt a 3rd for him 2 years ago, after he had some pretty good season. Now his value is much less, even after his recordseason.
Why hate on thomas Jones? He has better stats in 2008, than he ever did with the Bears, or Cardinals ever.
Don't forget The Jets gave almost nothing to get Thomas Jones, and he has been very productive in his tenure. If I recall correctly the Jets swaped 2nd rounders with Chicago to get Jones. Get that?...we didn't give up a 2nd rounder for the AFC's leading rusher, we SWAPPED picks essentially giving up 13 or 15 spots in the draft and thats it. Also its crazy for you to say that anyone that disagrees with you isn't watching the games, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. You are just another guy like the rest of us, opinions are free to all. All in all I would say the oposite, he is underrated if anything.
I don't disagree w/ your line of thinking but teams nowadays like to have 2 quality backs and TJ doesn't have an insane salary so it does make sense to bring him back.
This is an asinine thread. Thomas Jones in his first year had no holes to run through, but still had over a thousand yards. Year two Jones had more running lanes and his numbers showed it. I have never seen this kind of abandonment before from fans of any player; well maybe McCarens. Obviously a great many people have no idea what there talking about! Yes, there are teams that would like his services and one of them is the New York Jets.
We actually got a better second rounder to TAKE Thomas Jones off the hands of the Bears and you want to give him away because he won't be good much longer? He won the AFC rushing title last year. I'm thinking he still has a few years.
Jones is slow hitting the hole, but I don't think he should be dumped this year. As good as Washington is, I don't think he'd be as good if he was a featured back. Leon's role with this team is just fine the way it is (although I'd like to see him get more offensive touches). Thomas Jones is a better back that the other options, and we certainly have bigger needs when it comes to the draft. He's coming off a damn fine season, too.
Month of December 56 per game 3.9 per game against bad competition with the exception of Miami. He didn't have a huge amount of carries was well rested and did squat down the stretch. The OC who calls the plays is outright loved by the organization who was offered the job in Detroit and could have gone to several places was more comfortable going empty backfield with an injured QB in short yardage than giving it to the stud running back in the month were running backs earn their living.
I generally don't like to harsh on other posters but I have to agree completely with Phear. TJ had a fantastic year & led the AFC in rushing. He was a TD machine scoring 15 times. And by all accounts Jones was a solid leader in the clubhouse. What more can you ask of a RB? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
There is a definite need to add another RB. If Ryan wants to run more then they need it. Jones will be over 30 this year and that is when RBs start going down hill.
This thread is overrated. Fuck, what does the guy have to do, rush for 2,000 yards. He had a GREAT year and people still bash him. Spoiled. Maybe they should bring Kevan Barlow back.
at one time or another everyone needs to be replaced...but the thread is about TJ being overrated, that is clearly not the case, you cannot make a case against TJ based on a hypothetical situation and his slowness in hitting the holes is called letting the play develope, something young RB's learn after a year in the NFL... yes it's true LW had some nice runs this year but that is only the case because he stay's fresh by not being used so much in the running game, give him the ball 25 times a game and we can be sure he will break down as the season goes on and his level of productivity will not be the same. As for LW having 2000 yards, it's not going to happen, the smallest back to do it was Barry Sanders and LW is no BS, he would also have to carry the ball for 300 total to attain 2000 yards, he is not built to carry the ball 300 times. LW has a role on the team, if the Jets want to use him a little more in the run game fine, but don't wear him down to the point where he becomes ineffective on special teams.
