This loss is completely on Coach Saleh

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  1. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Stop breathing foreign substances.

    Answer the question.
     
  2. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    What have you been breathing? You seem to need some oxygen.

    Forget about my responding to every point the guy made who claimed it was not Saleh's fault, I'll just repeat the last line of my response for you since you seem to be having a problem understanding it.

    "But, apparently, for some he is not responsible for any of the things hurting this team. Exactly what is he responsible for?"
     
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  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Have to wonder if this staff is in over their heads. They start slow and are unprepared every week.

    Not to mention keeping Mims on the bench which is just infuriating
     
  4. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    The Skins game two years ago. Of course in the long run the game was meaningless.
     
  6. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Jet excuse #2: "Rookie HC/OC/DC/QB"
     
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  7. Jedi mind tricks

    Jedi mind tricks Well-Known Member

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    Man what is with Jets coaches and only getting the team to play one half?? Feels like this has been thing forever now
     
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    Jedi mind tricks Well-Known Member

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    Why stop there? Majority of JDs draft picks haven't done anything for this team
     
  9. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    I have half given up being a Fan after decades of abuse this Franchise repays loyal supporters...but when I turn my attention to watching the Raiders they manage to shit the bed too trying to hang their hat on D Carr

    The Johnsons and their clueless management continue to be bad luck...if Hess was still the Owner Bill Belichek might have been the Coach and the rest history

    Well all we have is now and the future guys...are there any answers???

    Joe Disappointment Douglas has 3 years to come up with a solution

    He picked Saleh LaFleur and Wilson...I need to see Progress..I need to see Improvement. Today from QTr 1 we needed to keep a steady run game going with Carter and feed Crowder the ball ...nothing long nothing fancy . If want a long ball you can't just heave it to Davis. One throw to Mims ??? Are you kidding??

    Douglas can start from scratch right? If Wilson is a Bust do a better job scouting ...the Kid has a great personality but don't just get sold on that (sorry NC gotta say it). I hope I am worried for no reason but today ZW couldn't make the case he's NFL worthy tbh

    Use the Billionaires money to pay them all off till we get it finally right
     
  10. King Koopa

    King Koopa Well-Known Member

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    Offensively they need to go for the jugular every series just about from the start…It’s almost like every game we try to “do the right thing within the system” and get our doors blown off. Then, we need hero ball to catch up.

    This team is deep at WR and Wilson is a gunslinger. They should be playing a hurry up type offense with everything based off of the deep ball on down. Our tight ends are awful but they’re always on the field…if you try to run a basic offense with this group you won’t do well as we see

    Defensively just play up and aggressive more so overall. I’d rather make them beat us over the top then get beat by the same short stuff over and over
     
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  11. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    I'm as negative as they come most days.

    I don't understand this vibe right now though?

    I would get It If we looked like dog shit the entire time, If we didn't come close to a comeback, If we didn't adjust as we went, etc....

    The Idea Is to improve, gel, and mold a team that we as fans can be proud of. This was a quality game that displayed growth, even In loss. This loss Is FAR AND AWAY better than what we seen the first three weeks combined. The last two games have been more In line with what I expected this year. A bad team, with potential, that will lose more than they win, but, will fight and be competitive throughout the season despite the deficiencies.

    Ya'll need to step back a bit and remember what this team looked like prior to these last two games. Don't let the win cloud your better judgment, we are still a bad team, they scratched and clawed to make It a winnable game. Yeah, they didn't get It done, a lot to fix, again though, I will take this loss over any of the first three games. I can handle struggles right now, I can't handle unacceptable bullshit that reminded me of the Gase era, only worse. That wasn't okay.

    This game wasn't that.
     
  12. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    The history is full of what ifs. One thing that is clear to me is that Belichik's success and longevity is solely because of Brady. Yes, he is a good coach too, so was Rex, and many others who ultimately faded into obscurity. Outside of Brady his record sucks, while Brady is doing just as well with another good coach. Would he still draft Brady if he was the coach of the Jets? Maybe, maybe not. There is a strong probability with a different situation his 6th round pick is different and he becomes nobody like many others. We will never know.

    As far as improvements, as tough a loss as today was, for a few weeks it looked like we cannot even be competitive. It looked like we can't protect our QB. At least now we are in games, even won one recently, and OL is giving Zach some time. There is some progress from that standpoint, even though we all like to see more. But this is a team with a lot of rookies, from coaching to QB, to being youngest in NFL overall. I at least feel better knowing we are competitive and can protect our QB. To me from the way we started the season, it seems like improvement.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    tight ends should be on the bench, no reason to keep trotting them out there. This is a young kid OC calling a 1980s offense
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yup. And it's transcended four coaches and three general managers at this point. It's mind blowing.
     
  15. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    From Idzik onward, every single one of those coaches and GMs was hired under some condition of bad faith, which is the biggest reason why we continue to suck.
     
  16. hornblower

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    Mims in not playing because the other receivers are better. Why should anyone care about that?
     
  17. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Good ol' AFC football... I like it.

    Why not... whatever the fuck they're doing ain't working.
     
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  18. hornblower

    hornblower Well-Known Member

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    Is this going to happen every time they lose a game? They are rebuilding and have a new everything. Get it!
     
  19. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Rebuilds take a couple years to make a bad team into a playoff team. They don't take a couple years to get a team to show any signs of life. Unless, which is what's happening here, the people orchestrating the rebuild are bad at their jobs.
     
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  20. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    How does a team that scratch and claw to make it a winnable game against Tennessee not even bother to show up for the first half of their next game, and should the head coach own responsibility for that?
     
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