This is Saleh’s fault

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  1. Savatage

    Savatage Well-Known Member

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    I need ZW supporters to talk me off the ledge.

    I want to like him, I've tried to like him, but, he makes it so damn hard.

    He's still young.
     
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  2. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    I can't defend him. He makes the easy plays look difficult
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Saleh is actually proving to be a pretty good coach. The Jets shouldn’t be in a lot of these games given the quarterback production they’re getting.

    I say that after being down on the hiring and him for over a year. I don’t think he has any control over how Wilson is being handled.
     
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  4. DetroitRed

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    Yeah, I heard it. Not sure he can stick with that
     
  5. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    Zack Wilson said in the post game that the Pats weren't throwing down field either. He doesn't get it. Yes it was windy. You don't have to throw down field all the time to win games, he was way off on many short, simple throws. There was some drops by the receivers but this loss is mostly on Wilson's inability to make the throws and slow the game down. He seemed lost out there.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Gross. Mac Jones had 4 incompletions and threw for 170 more yards. Mac Jones also sucks and played against the better defense.
     
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  7. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Saleh said after the game, he was not supposed to kick the ball to the middle of the field in that situation. as a HC you need to personally go the punter to tell him that. he did not.
     
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  8. NYsportsfan1962

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    We all agree we didn't expect the Jets to be where they are right now. But we have shown to have a top 3 defense in the league and good enough to make the playoffs and possibly win a game or two. However, the coaches and probably JD it seems would rather go down with the ship then admit their prize boy needs to sit. I can almost guarantee you there will be dissension in this locker room if it continues. The boys on this team realize how good they are and you can already see the frustration with the receivers. Zach is late on his throws, inaccurate and doesn't see the field well. Any of those are reasons are killers and he has all three. Saleh and JD better realize that soon or they will lose the locker room. Been watching this team for almost 60 years and very frustrated.
     
  9. JackBower

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    Shades of the Giants punting it to Jackson on the Eagles a handful of years back at the end of the game. Middle of the field, Jackson dropped it, ran back to pick it up, then scored. Coughlin tore into the punter on the field
     
  10. Get me the Damn Ball

    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think Saleh ever wanted Zach to be the starter or at least for this season. I always felt he preferred Flacco. But mgmt probably wanted Zach as the starter. I think Saleh will pull the plug on Zach after next week.
     
  11. Wut?

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    I don’t think you’re right. I think he and JD are more patient than the average fan. It paid of for the defense, which was terrible last year, so they figure they need to wait a little longer for this kid to figure it out. The issue is, that with all the new weapons he still hasn’t flashed much. Breece hall was the only way we had a shot to make a deep run.
     
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  12. LAJet

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    This. Agree completely. Saleh should have shown some Balls and bench Wilson at the end of the third quarter.
     
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  13. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    I like Saleh. His biggest issue and test is how he handles Zach. And it's a tough test. How much leash do you give him balancing that this is a win-now team with this QB was the 2nd overall pick last year and is just 20 games into his career?
    And now his lack of personal accountability absolutely reeks and could really cause some problems. He does not sound like a leader and that's a big deal.

    It's fine if Saleh supports his QB publicly. But being closed doors he needs to have a firm grasp of this situation and ensure Zach is getting all the constructive criticism he needs and not being coddled

    He needs to make sure Zach's poor play and lack of accountability doesn't derail this team
     
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  14. Get me the Damn Ball

    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    I like Saleh a lot. I think Wilson starting was a mgmt decision. If Saleh had his way, he would’ve started Flacco and let Wilson sit and learn. But Mgmt probably wants to know if Wilson is the guy. Nobody would’ve anticipated the Jets being this good.
     
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  15. NYJetsO12

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    Do we belong in the Playoffs at this point in time ?? Half the team does

    But as far as scoring goes we are not on the level of a San Diego or KC ..Zach couldn't play an Ivy or Patriot League game and win ..there are better QBs at Fordham and Holy Cross

    On SNFootball I am watching Mahomes and Justin Herbert throwing lasers and I am absolutely sick
     
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  16. Get me the Damn Ball

    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    He’s 4-2 as a starter
     
  17. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    It’s Saleh’s fault the offense had less than 10 total yards in the 2H because the quarterback is fucking lost?

    Saleh’s defense was the only reason this game even came down to that punt.

    I can guarantee you they didn’t want to punt it to the MIDDLE of the field there. They were kicking into the wind man.

    This game falls on the shoulders of one person and one person only; his name is Zach Wilson.
     
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  18. yanks9596

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    Literally every dropback and throw by Herbert looks better than the best play of Zach’s career. It’s like watching a first round talent vs an undrafted talent.
     
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  19. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    But more than a few thought Zach was capable of being this bad...

    p.s. I was not one of them
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The thing that has me really pissed off is that this is a game the Jets did not have to lose. In fact it is a game the Jets had to work very hard to lose.

    Learning things from losses is inevitable but losing games you don't have to lose is never a teaching moment.

    The person who really needs to take a lesson away from this game is Robert Saleh. The lesson is that unforced losses are unacceptable and you only have a few of those in your binder before you become unacceptable to the fans and to your players.
     
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