This is an all out Superbowl push....

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  1. NY Jets68

    NY Jets68 Well-Known Member

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    Super Bowl push?
    Let's hope they can get out of the AFCE basement first.
     
  2. NYJ1970

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    Jordan Love has accepted constructive criticism and always done what his coaches have asked of him. Not to mention, he EARNED his opportunity by playing well when his number has been called. What has Zach done on the field? Jordan Love has succeeded with far less talent as well. Zach has had better talent surrounding him and he can't even throw an accurate dump off pass. You can think what you want. I'm certainly not stopping you. But we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm a realist. My objective opinion on Zach is that he's a broken dingbat between his ears. He probably cannot be repaired. I think the Jets are giving him the very BEST possible scenario for him to sit on the bench and potentially start to get it between his ears. Zach has been said to need to need a positive reinforcing type guy. That is exactly what Nate Hackett is. He'll get additional positive reinforcement by Aaron Rodgers. Who just so happens to be his idol. If Aaron Rodgers plays the next two years? I think Zach will definitely get another opportunity in 2025. It was admitted after the conclusion of the season that Zach actually needed to sit for a few seasons and he never got that chance. Now he will under ideal circumstances. If he fails this time? He's done......
     
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    To further illustrate my point I just saw someone's attempt at ranking the backup QB's in the NFL.... The article has Zach Wilson as 23rd in the league among the actual 2nd string QB's. So even by the considerably lower standards of a backup QB, Zach still sucks. So why the Jets are making him their backup I will never know. He clearly hasn't earned it.....
     
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    That is why we signed Tim Boyle, he is someone compared to Wilson makes Wilson look good 3 Career tds ,8 ints.and a 54.5 career passer rating
     
  5. tomdeb

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    Zach was named number 2 because Joe Douglas doesn't have the balls yet to admit that Wilson is/was the biggest draft bust in jets history. He could have a bonanza of picks for that slot.
     
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    No, Zach is #2 because JD has no options beyond Rodgers. His plan A was Zach. Plan A was a disaster so now plan B is to win it all with Rodgers. You don’t get plan C’s. There is no option to fail beyond Rodgers. If Rodgers stinks or gets hurt then the season is done and everyone’s getting fired. With that reality, why would he invest 5-10m on a backup QB when he can use that towards other positions to strengthen the team around Rodgers?
     
  7. DetroitRed

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    Considering the history of GMs that Woody has hired, and the completely revamped, upgraded roster, that would be a mistake. Sometimes drafting a Qb is luck. See the Jaguars. Building a team is much harder
     
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    It was a huge mistake. The 49ers wanted to trade up for him, and they are known as a great organization. Happens to every GM. Overall body of work is more telling
     
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    I don’t disagree, but it is what it is. Zach was a terrible pick in the first place, handled terribly once he was brought in, and failed so embarrassingly that you have no choice but to look at JD and his team wondering what in the ever loving fuck they were thinking. There’s bad draft picks and then there’s Zach. Zach is in Leaf/JaMarcus Russell territory, and is likely actually worse than both. Decisions that bad cost people their jobs.
     
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    Biggest draft bust in Jets history? That's absurd and you're clearly too young to understand the Jets draft busts in their history. Zach is already 100 times better than Vern Gloston. Blair Thomas was probably a biggest bust. Darron Lee is probably on the same tier as Zach Wilson....
     
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    Gholston was.DE. Thomas was a RB. Both equally as poor at their respective jobs as Zach. Neither had a blip of effect long term on the detriment of the team. Drafting a QB as bad as Zach costs you the 3 years you waste developing him plus the years it takes to replace and correct the mistake. We have never had such a horrible draft pick as Zach Wilson. It’s not even close
     
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    None of those picks had anywhere near the value the Zach pick did. Value wise Zach was the biggest miss.

    The niners were in a position to gamble on Zach. Thing thing about that pick was that it was a pretty big gamble. To big for rebuilding team to invest in.
     
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    You can make up for a lot with the Qb. Look at the Jags. They roster is not as good as the Jets. Its an easy call now. More than 1 team wanted to trade up.
     
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    Seriously?
    A bad pick at QB whom you play for two years (like Zach Wilson, statistically the NFL's worst starter the last two years) is far more detrimental to the team than a bad pick who plays another position, IMO. The QB touches the ball on every offensive play. Thanks for calling me young, though. At my age that's a compliment. :D
     
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    Zach was a much bigger gamble because he had to many red flags suggesting he wouldn't succeed in the NFL. All he had was being one of the most media hyped up QBs in recent memory. It was frustrating watching our FO buy into this player with no substance beyond hype backing him up. All it took was a few pro day throws and they went all in.
     
  16. DetroitRed

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    That narrative has been disproven. Where the eagles and niners convinced with a few pro day throws?
     
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    Good post. I read that the pro day throws are what sold Douglas on Wilson and sold McMoron on Hackenberg. Unbelievable. Not only is there no pass rush, but there is also no DB harassing the receiver. Just a few simple pitch and catches to a WR alone on the field with the QB prospect. And that makes jets GMs think they are NFL ready. Hands down Zach Wilson is the jets costliest draft pick ever--no production (and replaced twice) over the first two years, totally lost his teammates and locker room, and foregone battery of draft picks Douglas could have acquired by moving the pick rather than picking Wilson.
     
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    WTH are you talking about? 3 years? Zach played a total of 20 games and he got benched. Aaron Rodgers is our starting QB as of this moment. 3 years is nonsense. BS. The Jets have selected worse QB's. What about Christian Hackenberg? He was clearly worse than Zach. Hell, he never even took a regular season snap.....
     
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    OK, well then you must be a geriatric that's too senile to know what you're talking about. Zach got benched after 20 games. EVERY top 10 pick Mike Macagnan made practically was a bust. And the Jets have Aaron Rodgers in town. If the pick of Zach was so catastrophic we wouldn't have Aaron Rodgers. Get over yourself....
     
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    If you just had Zach as your starting QB, you would too....
     

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