They're letting the season slip away....

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  1. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you that he needed to be pulled--we just can't make the logical leap that we would have won--as it is we lost so there's some probability a change would have won the game but we can never know. Under any circumstances he should have been pulled and it didn't take a genius to see it.

    Like Saleh said after the game, he never considered it. That's on him as a coach--BB has shown he considers it, and he did, and look at them now. Learning moment for Saleh most likely.

    PS: I am in TOTAL agreement MW should be starting QB and its not even close.
     
  2. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Simple arithmetic man!

    Mike White
    • Defense gave up 27pts in Vikings. 20pts with Bills. 47pts total.
    • Offense scored 20 pts in Vikings. 12 pts with Bills - 32pts total.

    Zach Wilson
    • Defense gave up 22pts and 3pts with Pats. 25pts total.
    • Offense scored 17pts and 3pts with Pats. 20pts total.

    Difference: Defense gave up 22 more points in those MW combined games. Note: didn't include ST scores by any team.
     
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  3. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    The Minnesota game was so winnable. We were down at their end of the field and came away with 3's instead of 6's. And their defense is not good by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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  4. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    And that in your megatroll teflon-don opinion means Z is a better option than Mike White?
     
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  5. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    I just ran the math for them. this is a 1+1 = 2 argument now.
     
  6. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely not! Where did I say that?! I'm just saying that game was there for the taking. We should have beat them.

    And WTF is a teflon-don opinion?
     
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    man I'm so late
     
  8. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    Don't lose sleep over it--these 2 are like Swifties for Zach.
     
  9. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I've seen you debate in the politics forum and this was definitely the right response
     
  10. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    Thanks man--peace
     
  11. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

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    My God this place is more unbearable now then when we just suck
     
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  12. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    Completely off topic: Did anyone see where Simms ranked the sourest fan bases?
     
  13. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly…Zach went 9-22 for 77 yards, and only two yards in the second half

    nothing more needs to be said…Zach cost us that second disgusting game against the Pats…

    how can anyone NOT see that is beyond me
     
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    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Looking at the stats from both games, the Jets had the better statistical performance and by that measure were the "better" team. And by that should have been better in the outcome. How's that math?

    Jets vs Vikings
    Team Stats

    Total Yards
    NYJ 486
    MIN 287

    Passing Yards
    NYJ 366
    MIN 159

    Rushing Yards
    NYJ 120
    MIN 128

    Average Yards per Play
    NYJ 6
    MIN 4

    Points Scored
    NYJ 22
    MIN 27

    Fumbles Lost
    NYJ 0
    MIN 0

    Interceptions Thrown
    NYJ 2
    MIN 0

    Sacks Allowed
    NYJ 1
    MIN 2

    3rd Down Efficiency
    NYJ 18%
    MIN 50%

    Time of Possession
    NYJ 31:38
    MIN 28:22

    Penalties
    NYJ 6
    MIN 3

    *******************************************************
    Jets vs. Bills
    POSSESSION

    [​IMG] NYJ [​IMG] BUF

    34:25 Time Of Possession 25:35

    13 Total Drives 13

    73 Total Plays 54

    309 Total Yards 232

    4.2 Yards Per Play 4.3

    1 Red Zone Tds 1

    2 Red Zone Attempts 1

    PASSING
    [​IMG] NYJ BUF

    233 Total Yards 130

    28 Completions 16

    47 Passing Attempts 27

    5.0 Yards Per Attempt 4.8

    0 Passing Tds 1

    RUSHING
    [​IMG] NYJ BUF

    76 Total Yards 102

    22 Attempts 24

    3.5 Yards Per Rush 4.2

    1 Rushing Tds 1

    TURNOVERS
    [​IMG] NYJ BUF

    2 Total 0

    2 Fumbles Lost 0

    0 Interceptions 0
     
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  16. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Check your calculator, it might need new batteries or something.
     
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  17. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Who the fuck has said otherwise???

    But to claim that "Mike White would've won those 2 Pats game" cannot be proven, and therefore hold no water. But by pointing this fact out does not mean that I'm saying Zach Wilson is better than Mike White at this point.

    Can anyone here string more than two ideas together without getting mentally hogtied?
     
  18. SoylentGreen

    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, my 13 year old son could have done better in the 2nd half of the Pats game. I don’t know if he wins that game, but he 100% could lead an offense to more than 2 yards in a half of football.

    That half of football spoke volumes and should be a jumping off the ZW bandwagon for all…

    Starting qb’s don’t play that bad and the same can be said of Mike White, backups don’t play that good (317 yards/game - in 2/3 games with bad elements).
     
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  19. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    "To be fair"...Really? LOL!

    And again, I was one of the ones to say that Zach should've been benched after he came out in the second half and showed he just couldn't do anything. But how about if we put the blame for that where it truly lies - on the CS. Zach was clearly screwed up and couldn't get out of his own way, but like any athlete he was going to keep going out there trying, he wasn't going to take himself out.
     
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  20. SoylentGreen

    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    I was only partially joking. My son plays Qb and unlike Zach is very accurate and can consistently throw to a spot. Yes only 13, but I’ve never seen him miss screens like Zach. I think he’d 100% complete more passes in the Pats game 2nd half… there’s other aspects of the game that would overwhelm him I’m sure…

    The fact that I’d ever write something so stupid like above and actually believe it, tells me all I need to know about ZW.

    He’s not the guy.
     

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