They run, they win.

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    They thought he might be past the line of scrimmage. Teams do that all the time without knowing the result. C'mon man. This is hating for the sake of hating.
     
  2. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Blame Rex then. You have enough to legitimately blame Schotty for.
     
  3. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    Don't they have someone upstairs looking at exactly this type of thing? If I can see it sitting on my couch I would imagine someone working for the Jets could get in Rex's ear as soon as it happens so they don't waste a play?
     
  4. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Just racking up the evidence.

    I blame Rex for not being more administrative, just like last year.

    He may give a long leash to everyone, which is fine. But if things need to back to his philosophy, he needs to make that clear.

    I just don't like the october football I saw from the Jets on offense. The defense was banged up and the personnel was new, so I gave them time.
     
  5. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    That's my POV as well.

    Someone has to tell you, "Guys we're okay, just set up for the next play."
     
  6. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    It's the type of thing where you don't have time to look or wait for replays - you react and hurry. It's easy to look at it now and say "how stupid", but at the time they just wanted to be safe. Nothing was going there way on offense and they didn't want to lose one of the few big plays they had all day.
     
  7. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Jets 3rd ranked rushing offense

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    Packers 27th rushing defense

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    Packers 3 healthy defensive linemen on active roster

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    38 pass attempts by Jets

    Now that's some Schitty math.
     
  8. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    So WSW does a beautiful break down of the game, and you come back with this... :rofl:
     
  9. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Both our 2 losses can be attributed to the OC's game plan playing right into the hands of the opposing defense.

    -Baltimore: came in with one of the best front 7s in football and a bunch of back ups in the secondary. So we run the ball to ad nauseum.

    -Green Bay: decimated by injuries in their front four and have one of the best secondaries in football. So we throw the ball all over the place.

    Makes no sense.
     
  10. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Definetly! I love this team and rex,but i think they have gone away from their backbone a bit. Running and All or Nothing Blitzing.
     
  11. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    OP: Ground and pound isn't a good way to run your offense. Running is way less efficient than passing. All you have to do is look at any team's yards per carry vs yards per pass attempt throughout the year. Passing is way more efficient. There's a reason why they call it a quarterback's league.

    Running more than 50% of the time is simply not efficient and is way too predictable. Look at the Chiefs. They average 190 rushing yards per game, yet they're only 11th in scoring and 12th in yards per game. Not to mention they have one of the easiest schedules in recent memory.

    Sanchez was drafted to be a quarterback. Let him throw the ball and beat defenses. That's what he was drafted to do, and that's the best way to create a high-scoring offense. Ground-and-pound will result in more punts, and bringing our defense back onto the field to get even more tired. Our offense should not strive to score barely enough points to win. It should strive to score 30+ every game.

    You keep saying, "throw the ball less, so Sanchez can develop". You don't see the irony in that? Experience is the only thing that will allow Sanchez to develop. Sanchez will only develop by throwing the ball more, and taking on more responsibilities as a quarterback.

    We can continue to run a simple offense that barely scores enough points to win, or we can let Sanchez throw it more and handle a more complex scheme. If he doesn't want to take the initiative to learn, then he doesn't belong in the NFL.
     
  12. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    Lol. 50/50 pass-to-rush ratio is "running the ball to ad nauseum"?

    The decision making in the Green Bay game has been broken down play-by-play in this thread. Why don't you try reading that?
     
  13. Royce Parker

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    I hear your point but it's still hard for me to believe that with all of the money and technology they have available these days that they wouldn't have at least one person watching the actual broadcast for situations like this. It was clear enough to see when it originally happened - really no need to wait for a replay. Oh well...
     
  14. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    If its a Quarterbacks league, then how come the teams that run it more are more successful then the high octane passing teams? Its been proven this year that the run heavy teams are much more successful. If ground and pound isn't a good way to run an offense, then you don't like Rex Ryan. The philosophy of this team isn't what your asking for.


    Look at the Chiefs: 5-2. That easy schedule bullshit means nothing.

    Sanchez was drafted to be efficient. You don't understand what the Jets identity is on offense. Nothing you've said correlates to anything the Jets want to do as an offensive unit. We aren't the Saints. Get over it.

    Ben Roethlisberger.

    You haven't read about Mark Sanchez. That's what this paragraph tells me. Initiative to learn? Wow.
     
  15. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    The problem with the Ravens game was playing it safe with everything.
     
  16. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    The Steelers had the same problem with Roethlisberger a few years ago. More than 25 passing attempts and they were sunk. Putting the ball in the hands of a sophomore QB while letting two great RBs sit on the sidelines wanting for carries is terrible game management.
     
  17. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Thank You.

    Ben is the only true Junior to come out of the NCAA with any success. It has to do with the fact that he was brought along correctly by Cowher's regime.
     
  18. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Young QBs + Heavy running game = success.

    If you ask Sanchez to be Dan Marino in his second season then you are going to be really pissed off at the results. He's still learning the game and he's still learning his receivers, granted they didn't give him too much help last week.

    Greene having 6 carries in a game is pathetic. Put a bigger focus in the running game and split the carries more evenly between LT and Greene and we'll see Sanchez with a much better rhythm and a greater comfort level. Schottenheimer is putting too much faith in his passing game too early.

    Let the future HoFer and the tank we traded away most of our 2009 draft to get handle the game and Green Bay won't happen again.
     
  19. 624

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    Whenever Sanchez has a very good stretch it seems like Schotty keeps throwing more at him instead of staying with what works.

    Rookie Year: Sanchez starts out with 3 straight Rookie of the Week awards...then he goes on a bad stretch with tons of picks


    In the playoffs he looks amazing after simplifying the offense, then in game 1 of 2010 he is asked to do too much.

    Offense simplified again...Sancehz goes 8/0 TD/Int ratio and then Schotty once again goes too far.


    He has to be smart with this 23 year old franchise QB.
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    A secret of why I'm hating a lot this week:

    Rex Ryan wanted Hue Jackson on his offensive staff because any coach Rex picks for his staff has a 90% chance to be awesome.

    Hue Jackson Oakland Raider offense has score 92 points in the last two games. That's been tearing at me for the last 10 days.
     

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