They run, they win.

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    He's going to have ups and downs in his 2nd season.

    I hope most of us realize he won't be done maturing until his 4th or 5th season.

    That's why ground and pound is still paramount. It helps a 2nd year QB.
     
  2. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Not at all, but integrating Holmes as obviously proven to be more of a hassle then expected.

    Plus it's still his second year and we knew we'd see some stretches like this. The good thing is these aren't that bad.

    We've been in every game to the end, and now our defense is coming together.
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I don't really remember him forcing any passes to Holmes?
     
  4. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    i hear you, and i am aware of all of this ...

     
  5. Organized Chaos

    Organized Chaos Well-Known Member

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    I think he's light years ahead of where he was last season at this time, and unlike last season he's not losing games for us.
     
  6. Vorrecht

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    We should be running it at least 55% of the time.
     
  7. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    Yeah, I meant in general, not just the Packer game. That was a one posession game the whole way, you just run your offense.

    Rex pointed to the penalties causing long-yardage situations as the reason they didn't run more. Maybe they should let Weatherford call the plays, he has no problem running on 4th and long. :up:
     
  8. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Thankfully he hasn't. I was just saying I don't want to see that.

    Considering Sanchez doesn't force throws as much anymore, I think we don't see it.

    But he did force throws to Braylon, and I still believe bringing in Braylon helped the run game but hurt Sanchez.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    We were in good position to run on 2nd down here. Sometimes you need to pass in obvious running situations to give your QB better looks and to keep
    the defense off balance. On 3rd down we're in an obvious passing situation.

    R1:p2

    Ground and pound baby.
    R4:p2

    I believe that was that beautifully setup screen play to Greene that he just plain dropped (1st down). Good play call against a stacked box,
    bad execution. We got nothing on 2nd and 10 running and then we in an obvious passing situation.

    R5:p5

    False start on first down puts us in a bad spot. We get a nice 5 yard gain on first down running the ball but then we're still at 2nd and 10 and in
    a passing situation. We manage to pickup the first down via the pass, but then a rare fumble by Smith shuts us down.

    R9:p9

    Here we go with a nice pass to start the drive and move the chains on first down. Passing on first down gives Nacho a better defense to pass against.
    Another poorly executed screen play (i believe) on the next first down followed by another false fart puts us in 2nd and long and an obvious passing
    situation.

    R9:p13
    Not much to say here other than penalty and fake interception.

    R14:p18

    Inside two minutes - obviously we're passing

    R14:p21

    Looks like we tried to come out in the 2nd half and ground & pound but the short gain on first followed by the no gain on second forced a 3rd down pass.

    R16:p22

    Another penalty halts a drive and puts us into a passing situation.

    R19:p26
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Another drive f'd up by a penalty, followed by a fake interception.
    R26:p30


    The Sanchez sneak on 1-10 at the 37 to prevent a replay put us in a worse situation than we needed to be. Being in four down territory we DEFINITELY should
    have been running on 2nd or 3rd down here (maybe both).

    R28:p35

    We had to pass here.

    R:29:p40
     
  11. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Thanks Willie, I knew that watching the game it felt like the running game was getting shut down. It actually was too.
     
  12. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    That fuckin QB sneak.

    Holy shit Cutesy. Holy shit.
     
  13. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    3 times I saw LT trip over his own feet for no or a small gain.

    It was a shitty execution day. There were situations where the run was the right thing to do, the QB sneak play is a great example.
     
  14. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    The QB sneak where they thought GB might challenge? Haven't watched any PC's from the game or this week so I don't know if anyone has talked about this. Did anyone say what the deal was with that? Looked like it was something Sanchez did on his own or something they had planned for a questionable play to me. I never thought that was an actual play call.
     
  15. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Come on with the bashing the QB sneak it was called because they didnt want the play to be reviewed. I dont understand how anyone could think that Schotty called a QB sneak on 1st and 10 to gain serious yardage.
     
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    That may be true but really he was one of only 3 options in the passing. Cotch Keller and Edwards last year. TJ and Greene are no good in the passing game
     
  17. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    The play before was the Keller catch.

    What part of that play was going to be reviewed? It was perfectly fine.

    It was a stupid idea. If it was in fear of it being reviewed its twice as stupid because he was behind the line.

    I've heard nothing about that play being Sanchez's call.
     
  18. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Stuckey was a checkdown option.

    This is a whole new discussion, but Sanchez was doing fine and had a gameplan that called for short throws that were beneficial for a rookie.

    Braylon ended up helping in the long run, but early on it was a bad idea. I never liked the trade with a rookie QB with 16 starts in college.
     
  19. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    The worry was Sanchez being close to the LOS. It didn't look that close on T.V. but on the field they don't have the benefit of a blue line on the field, they also didn't have a chance to look at a replay since they were trying to prevent GB from seeing one and challenging. It was a call made in real time with nothing to go off besides the human eye.
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    He was 3 yards before the line. That's a lot of room.

    If the CS thought he was closer, shame on them. They have the sideline view where they can line up Sanchez and the marker. 9 feet is tough to fuck up, no matter what your angle is.

    That play is inexcusable.
     

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