Too many reasons to list but for starters: -Had multiple passes tipped at line of scrimmage. He needs to throw the ball from a higher trajectory point or avoid throwing right into the linemen's hands. Any decent NFL QB does not have 4 of 5 tipped balls in a game. -He missed wide open receivers for potential touchdowns. See Cromartie where he made an awful throw. If he makes a decent throw then that is a TD and difference in the game and we're here today talking about how the Jets won the game. -INT's in the Red Zone-You get known as a scrub NFL QB real quick if you keep making turnovers in the Red Zone. These are all the direct result of awful QB play. I just named a few for you. I need to get into the office but there's plenty more to name. Why do you defend this loser excuse of QB? Would you rather say you're right about him and see the Jets have an awful year because of him? To say he had a good game clearly shows your lack of football knowledge, Eh???
Yeah when the defender tips Sanchez' pass it's bad luck and not the QB's fault for making a poor throw? What excuse machine are you working from? Deal with it. The QB sucks. Why do you defend a shitty QB?
What is the point you're making with this post other than that you don't really understand football so you just look at stats?
I don't defend him. I am willing to call a spade a spade and not be mad because my team lost and because I buy into the simpleton ideology that the QB decides who wins and who loses. 15 years of watching film and adecade of playing on offense and defense give you the ability to be objective and not emotional. I guarantee you haven't done that. Do you subscribe to NFL Gamepass and watch the all-22 views of all the games each week? He missed Cromartie on a deep ball. You want him to be 100% on deep balls? Show me a QB who is. Yes, he could raise his relaease point. He's had that problem his whole career, but that has nothing to do with throwing motion, it has to do with posture and stance. Russell Martin, Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia, etc have all been able to avoid having passes tipped and their release points were always lower that Mark's worst. It's because, more important than releae point, is having a passing lane. That is exactly what is sounds like: a space to throw the ball through when standing in the pocket. When the pocket is constantly collapsing and the QB has to move and re-set in order to plant and throw, it is very had to find an open lane because your line doesn't know where you are and you don't know where you'll be throwing from on any given play. Add that to the fact that everyone knows Watt tips a lot of passes and you can understand why that happened last night. Sanchez is not off the hook, but to blame him entirely is easy, it's simplistic. There was one pick in the red zone last night and it was off a tip. It was not tipped right at the line, and the WR, after teh deflection, pulled his hands back. That was a great play by the LB and a fortunate outcome for the DB who caught it. Blaming that one on Mark is asinine. The second pick was a somewhat high but very catchable pass to Cumberland. Now in the red zone. You wanna blame Mark for that, go ahead, but you're wrong. Sanchez is an average NFL quarterback who will never be consistently good. On a team with a dominating run game and a great D, he can be successful, but just like the 2 AFCC games, it is not and will never be because of him (as much as simpleton fans like to say "Sanchez got them to 2 championship games", they are wrong and always will be). Right now he is all there mentally. He is in charge of the offense, looks comfortable on the field, and is fighting for wins. In that respect, he has matured. He physical skills, in my opinion, are maxed out. But he knows what he is doing out there and until the rest of the team does, replacing the QB won't help. If you want to nitpick the bad plays, look at the stats instead of the flim, and make conclusions, that's fine. I'm sure bleacher report can always use another "writer".
You guys are now stuck in the same rut we were in with Chad Henne. Sanchez is a mediocre starting QB with no talent around him due to the injuries of Holmes and Keller, combined with an overrated offensive line and the worst RBs in the league. Worst of all, you made the colossal mistake of hiring Sparano as your coordinator - man with zero imagination or ability to adjust - and your using dolphins castoffs as your replacment players for injuries. I hope you don't, but you need to fire Sparano at seasons' end and draft a QB with your high draft pick next year.
The first tip is a called quick slant -- personally i would have had Sanchez roll right and try to spring someone open along the goal line or throw away. Avoid the traffic JJ Watts was creating. He didn't get his hands up in the air and knock it down..he saw Kerley and guessed screen pass. He guessed correctly on the play and altered the flight of the ball. That play was just bad luck. Wasn't a bad throw, or a stupid decision, it was a poor play choice given the situation by Sporano. That situation, after last week, should ave been roll outs, and TD or incomplete where no defender has a shot. Instead with no running game teams are going to sit on short quick routes -- Watts played it like the elite defender he is.
No one's saying Sanchez had a career game yesterday but look at the team around him before pointing a finger at him. Sure he deserves blame but our offense is just inept. We have 3rd stringers and just straight up JAGS playing for us. Paired with the fact that Greene cant run more than 2 yards and you have a recipe for disaster.
This. Again, I'm a Sanchez fan, I want to see the guy succeed...but he's the starter because he's supposed to be a better pure passer than Tebow and have the arm strength to make throws McElroy can't. If he's completing passes at a 49% clip, what advantage is there to having him in there? It's not like he's making plays with his legs or playing particularly smart football. He's a complete mess. I can see maybe giving him a little more time because A)he's played against some really tough defenses and B)it's not like either guy behind him stands out as a marked improvement...but if he doesn't pick it up in these two games before the bye week, Rex has to consider making a move.
sanchez continues to do the things that he has always done. throws the ball a little high... throws the ball a little behind a guy. 4 yard gain instead of 12... throws the ball out of bounds on a one on one down the sideline... underthrows the ball to a wide open receiver down the sideline because his defender fell down, defender comes back and makes the tackle so we get a field goal instead of a td.... fumbles the ball... fumbles the ball... doesnt get rid of the ball on time or get it out of bounds... ad nauseum... throws a couple good passes to be followed up with a couple bad passes... STILL continues to complete LESS than 50 percent of his passes. these are all things he did last night that hurt the team.
Sanchez, worst QB in the NFL by every objective evaluation of the stats: not his fault according to Gang Green.
It has nothing to do with luck or its a bad play from the QB.....its a great play from a great defender with quality technique. People need to stop looking for what went wrong rather than see what went right. That's a problem TGG quite often has.
After a fitful night of sleeping; I'm thinking this: If Hill and Keller comes back, I give Sanchez one more chance to not screw things up. Just one. And it's going to be in the 1st quarter too. Go three and out; put Tebow in as QB...no question. If both of them don't come back; start Tebow. Let him get acclimated to a new receiving corp. I guaranfuckingtee that he will lead the team to a win. In all honesty; I wish Woody Johnson would put his foot down and have Tebow start.
It doesn't defy any logic. The pass would've been perfectly in Kerleys numbers if you look at where the ball was heading. Arm angle had nothing to do with it either. There was a person right behind Kerley so he couldn't throw behind him and if he threw further in front of kerley, Watt would have picked it off himself. Calling somebody ignorant when simply watching the game would conclude what I said correct is ignorant.
Jets: 31st in the league in Opposition rushing yards allowed, 25th in the league in Rushing yards, 28th in the league in passing yards. Only one of those can be directly blamed on Sanchez. This is a mediocre team with a mediocre QB. The front office has failed to build a winning football team, and that is where the fault begins.
Wait, Sanchez plays for the Jets, right? In fact, I believe he's the Jets' starting QB. Even if he gets benched, he's still a Jet. Now as a Jets fan, it's acceptable, even encouraged, for me to be a fan of every player who wears a Jets jersey. Soooo, if I'm a fan of the Jets, I should also be a fan of Sanchez, and there is nothing wrong with that. Since being a fan of Sanchez and being a Jets fan aren't mutually exclusive, it has been conclusively proven that the whole premise of this thread is fucking stupid. You're welcome.
He wasnt good with a great oline and two pro bowl wrs in 2010. He sucks now because the jets cant hide him any longer.
Maybe there should be a Mark Sanchez forum for the homers. At this point I m not going to say he is better than Tebow. One good drive a game - thats Mark Sanchez. Good luck winning with a QB like that. There is nothing left to say about Mark that hasn't been said a million times by reasonable people. He is good a few plays a game. He is bad a few plays a game. Most of the time he is below average. He is not the QB to lead us anywhere. MAKE THE CHANGE! If for no other reason then to end the Sanchez entitlement.
So you're saying the Sanchez supporters aren't Jets fans? WTF? Not only that but you are claiming that more people support Sanchez, than don't support him which is completely false. Read the damn posts, more people attack him on here than support him. So logic states that you are just whining and bitching and looking for another excuse to dump on Sanchez. Sanchez isn't blameless, but blaming him exclusively is stupid. Without Cumberland tipping that ball that hit him in the hands into the DBs hands we have a 3 point game. Take away that FG that resulted from the botched onsides kick by Schillens and it's a tie. I know what ifs don't matter, but this game was very close and you can't blame Sanchez for losing when a pass hits the receiver in the hands and he can't come up with it.
Homers like you think Mark should only have to throw 4 good passes a game. Jets homers: "He threw 4 good passes this game so he is good."
Where have I ever said anything close to that? Yeah, just call me a homer and call it a day. :rofl: Blaming just the QB when there's clearly deeper issues on offense is what idiots do.
