There are more Sanchez fans on this forum than Jets fans

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  1. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    I defended Mark , not blindly, but because I thought he had talent and would improve.

    I can no longer defend him because I don't believe he is more than a 50% passer..

    Sorry Mark

    Maybe a guy like Harbaugh can help after youre gone, but certainly not Rex and Tony.
     
  2. FlashGordon

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    1)Because you don't think a Tebow-led offense is going to score any more points than we currently are.

    2)Because screwing around with the QB is a pretty good way to ruin a season that still has a bunch of winnable games on the schedule (Indy, Miami, Jax, Tennesee, Buffalo, Rams, Arizona, Seattle, San Diego).
     
  3. NYJets82

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    Look, so far this season, Sanchez has given you the worst production of any QB in the NFL. Over the past 4 games, our offense as a whole has scored 3 touchdowns and Sanchez has had a passer rating of 58 and a completion percentage of 44%.

    It's not about Tebow, it's not about McElroy, it's not about the other deficiencies on offense. You bench Sanchez because it would literally be impossible for anyone else to do worse.
     
  4. The Lord

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    If we're going to use Tebow correctly, it is on 3rd and shorts, and for an entire series when Sanchez has been struggling to change things up. He's not dynamic enough to get one play here and there; he needs to get the juices flowing, he needs to get used to the field, he needs to wear down defenders, and he needs to have the double/triple threat always available. We used him OK tonight, but we need to get better.

    After his 12 yard run to the goal line, Sparano kept him in for 1st down. I was totally in favor of that, but he got no yards. But I say there, don't pull his ass. Keep him in for 2nd down, at least. Let him keep pounding away now that he's seen it and they've seen him run. I'd even leave him in for 3rd down, especially if its 1 yard out, but I can't fault Sparano for bringing Sanchez back in then.
     
  5. Organized Chaos

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    Less turnovers, more yards, longer drives.

    I am under no illusion that Tebow will light up the scoreboard. But he will get more first downs and keep the defense of the field for longer periods of time.

    I would probably give mark another game or two, but if he stinks up the place against the colts the Jets really need to consider benching him.
     
  6. ArmandJ

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    1: Really? You don't think a Tebow lead offense could produce more than two offensive touchdowns? That's highly unlikely.

    2: You won't win too many games with a qb that completes under 50 percent of his passes. You just won't.

    I was against Tebow as much as anybody; but after seeing that piece of shit performance, I don't see how anyone can rationalize starting Sanchez unless they were on meth.
     
  7. ArmandJ

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    I wouldn't even give him that much. He needs to be benched when we play the Colts. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
     
  8. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    I think people defend Mark more feverishly than normal out of fear of Tebow playing. I am not a Tebow guy, but Mark is Mark.....
     
  9. MoWilkShakes

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    The "Sanchez fans" know the season and the future of this team goes down with Mark Sanchez. We do not have the defense or running game to do what denver did last season with Tebow. McElroy is completely untested, giving him the start is essentially giving up the season and grasping at straws.
     
  10. Mr. Green Pants

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    I'm in the same boat, brotha. I thought he was on the fence and could become either Eli Manning or Joey Harrington. I supported him because the poise he showed in pressure situations, the generally positive stuff we heard about his work ethic, and the occasional good performances had me thinking it was more likely than not that he'd develop into a legit QB. At this point, it's clear that hasn't happened. In my opinion, he's pretty much used up all his chances. If he doesn't perform against the Colts, Rex has to consider going with either Tebow or McElroy.
     
  11. BrucekilledBoomer

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    That argument makes sense if the backup is pretty much any other player than Tebow. I think he was around 46% last season.
     
  12. ArmandJ

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    Mark Sanchez's Total QBR in the game was 10.0. Sanchez has two of the 11 lowest QBR games (among qualified passers) this season.


    10...10

    10 out of 153. That is stealing money...
     
  13. ArmandJ

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    And who made it to the playoffs? Tebow wasn't lighting up the world, but he can extend the plays. When you have a QB who rattles off 3 and outs like it's his job; you need someone like that.
     
  14. Mr. Green Pants

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    I'm no Tebow fan and question whether McElroy has the physical tools to be an NFL quarterback, but if Sanchez can't complete even 50% of his passes, there's no reason not to roll the dice with one of those guys.
     
  15. BakerMaker

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    Please don't use that terribly flawed QBR nonsense ESPN tries to sell and that they created to be cutting edge.
     
  16. FlashGordon

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    1) How many times did Denver's offense score two TD's with him at QB last year? 6 out of 12, I think?

    2) Tebow is also a sub-50% passer.

    I'll give one more reason to start Sanchez at Indy: Sanchez' shit streak has come against 3 of the top 5 Defenses in the league (Pittsburgh, 49ers, Houston). The worst is behind him.
     
  17. Diddy

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    BSPN needs to cut the QBR pronto, and Tom Jackson!
     
  18. BrucekilledBoomer

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    My point was that you said you won't win too many games with a QB who completes under 50%...but Tebow is one of those QBs.
     
  19. NYJetsMetsCTHuskies

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    Sanchez isn't a good quarterback.. you can argue for him starting over Tebow but you can't defend Sanchez as a quality NFL quarterback.

    RZ turnovers
    Fumbles
    Inaccurate

    If we had a decent running game and a solid Offensive Line would that change???? No, just look at his career statistics.
     
  20. ArmandJ

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    I am not exactly sure to be honest; I'll give you that one though.

    Tebow is a sub 50 percent passer; but unlike Sanchez he can run a lot faster and extend plays. If he starts, we may see less passes but a far improved running game.


    What about the Dolphins game? He wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire with that game either. Interception in the red zone, missing a WIDE open receiver in the end-zone...less than 50 percent passer rating as well...

    Just accept that he has no business being a starting QB in the NFL.
     

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