lol people always jump the gun after a bad loss like that henne looked terrible even against scrubs in preseason, and pat white can't hit the broad side of a 8 mile long barn theres no way they can start either one of those guys everybody talks about how pennington can't make the deep throw. well henne and white can't make the short throws either lol
Hahah, I'm sure it's eating you up inside that the people you've defended are now being exposed for what they really are: Herm is in the broadcasting booth Mangini's team looks lost and Chad has begun to disappoint another fan fan-base.
This may seem strange to you but all I care about is how the Jets are playing. I appreciate what those guys did for our team and I wish them well when they leave but I only care about how the New York jets perform. -Herm did a good job for us -Chad did a good job for us and how did he disappoint Miami fans? the same fans that hadn't seen a postseason game the 6 previous seasons before Chad arrived then they watched him win a div title. My hope is Rex will be great and Sanchez will be great and I'll root for them as long as they are in Jet uniforms and clothing.
Hey, I hope the best for the Jets too. How Chad disappoint Miami fans? Read the thread title. Or go back and watch Chad's past two performances. The point is, now that we can look at these people as former Jets - ones that you defended out of bias - we can see that they're amounting to insignificance. And when some of us recognized that that was going to be their route (while they were here with the Jets) you couldn't see that. All you saw was a comparison of an improved Jets team -- improved from a history of failure. Mediocrity is better than failure, but eventually static mediocrity sucks too.
WOW! I could have sworn that there were alot of flipper fans thanking us last year for giving up chad. How the Jets made such a bad mistake by letting him go. Well well well look who turned on chad after one bad game this year. On tap in miami all the crow you can get.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I'll never hate on Pennington, but the day he put on a Miami jersey is the day he became the enemy. Pretty simple.
Ok, Finheaven is turning into Theganggreen circa 2007. All the Chad defenders popped up today with the old "we know what we have in him, he's a game manager not a game-changer at QB, and he wants to win so bad he tries to do things he can't and gets in trouble." I'm enjoying watching the back and forth carnage over there more than anything football related over the last few seasons. It was worth it to let him go just to inflict that kind of civil war on the fins fanbase. God I hope they keep running him out there until they hit like 1-4.
i think you guys take the world of message boards way too seriously if you really think that message board thread titles are indicative of anything more than 1% of fan opinion then you are wrong
I defended them(and still do) b/c they were really good for us. It's fans like you that give jet fans a bad name. We don't have to throw out players and coaches b/c they are no longer w/ us. We can still appreciate waht they did for us. Chad has a mediocre OL and no WRs. What he did last year was amazing but some folks will never get it.
Realistically, I think that's one of the best things that never happened to us. In an alternate universe, the Jets and Bills get smacked around annually by the Saban/Brees Dolphins and the Belichick/Brady Patriots.
I think he had a bad game, period. Every QB has them from time to time. Let's face it, Pennington is never going to WOW you with his arm, and he's never been a "big play" type QB. He's a manager, and he takes what the defense gives him. He's simply an average QB, nothing more / less.... On a side note, the Falcons were very physical up front on Sunday, and it was obvious from the start that Pennington was going to be under a lot of pressure. The OL was not able to contain Abraham, and the running game never got going consistently for us. Our wildcat formation was practically invisible, and the Falcons defense was ready for it regardless... Bottom Line : It looks like Miami is having the same offensive issue we did a year ago at this time. The OL is still nothing more than mediocre in my opinion. We can't line-up and just pound it, we're not built that way, and that's causing serious struggles offensively. We need to get more physical in the trenches... As for Pennington, I'm not giving up on him yet. We started very slow in 2008, and ended up winning 11 games / the division. There's still plenty of time to turn things around in Miami. Besides, I'm not certain Henne could do any better at this stage... ~BK~
if anyone can go find the "hot girlfriend you broke up with" analogy that I used to use for Pennington please copy and paste it at finhaven. Maybe they will learn something.
Here's the deal on Chad (and I know it's been written a hundred times, but I'll do it again): He really does not handle pressure well. He never did. The Jets teams that did well with him had good to great offensive lines and could pound the ball up inside when they needed to. Even those teams could not win in the playoffs once the topflight defenses started lining up opposite them and putting pressure on every down. What Chad does well is to control the flow of the offense when it is not critical that the offense score right now. With a lead he's great because he will never make an unforced error and swing the game on you. With a 9+ point deficit, however, he's really terrible overall because what he can do well, which is to not make errors, doesn't mean anything when what you need instead is points now. At that point he begins to force plays and then he begins to make errors. If the Dolphins put all of the other pieces together successfully, with a great line and an excellent defense to control the line of scrimmage, there's no reason to believe Chad couldn't QB them to a Super Bowl title. This was true with the Jets also. The problem is that most teams that win Super Bowl titles already have the QB on the plus side of the ledger so everybody else can be just a bit off of perfect and the whole thing still works. Look at the Steelers and you see the perfect example: their offensive line is barely above average and yet because they have Roethlisberger and his ability to perform under heavy fire they won a Super Bowl anyway. Put Chad in the middle of that offense and they'd be lucky to go 9-7.
Chad is too nice of a guy to be a football player. Even when he tries to act intense and fired up its looks very uncomfortable and awkward.
It's not just being nice that's the issue. He commits turnovers under pressure. He had 4 turnovers in 2002 in the playoffs against the Raiders before he'd ever gotten injured. This isn't just arm strength, although arm strength now limits him more than it did due to the injuries, it's mental toughness. Chad is not mentally tough at all. Don't take this the wrong way though, he has courage and has played through a lot of painful situations. Some people get better when the chips are down. Some people get worse. Chad gets worse. It's a pattern that has re-emerged time and time again in his NFL career and it's unlikely to change at this point. He could still win a Super Bowl on the right team, but that was true of Trent Dilfer too.
