The Ultimate Nightmare

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  1. dabrowsk1

    dabrowsk1 Active Member

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    Same stuff you spew every year. Last year they were going to the playoffs because of their offseason moves. And the year before. Blahblahblah. Same crap. Like I said what makes what you say this year any different from what you have said for the past 3? Get back to me when you get to the playoffs.
     
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  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Hey d, remember the 'Raiders will be biggest surprise in league' nonsense 2 years ago? Or was that last year? Or was it both?
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I thought you meant last year, ok fair enough.
     
  4. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Ummmm... ok... if you say so.... but you guys are pretty bad, so when you come down form the cloud of chronic you should find that midget at the freak show who read your palm and told you this was going to come true, and kick his ass.

    He's got you spewing some utter non-sense.

    funny, but it makes you look as funny as it sounds
     
  5. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    so dumbway wouldn't trade away the pick for a backup cb and a kicker ? :shit:
     
  6. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Your talking about bad, have you looked at the Jets roster lately. When pennington can throw an eight yard pass pattern , thyan I will take your post seriously.


    BTw MRs cleo and her physic friends are no freaks.
     
  7. dabrowsk1

    dabrowsk1 Active Member

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    Have you looked at the Raiders roster lately? Oh wait it is FILLED with future HOF talent and THIS is the year they finally got it right. They are going all the way baby. Weren't they supposed to do that last year? And the year before? What happened? Oh right...4-12. Until the Raiders make it to the playoffs and back to .500, shut the hell up.

    Same crap every year, my god. I bet your fellow Raiders fans on their boards can't stand your extreme homerism either. Be honest, how many boards have you been kicked off? How many are you the butt of jokes on? Come on, we are all friends here, you can tell us.

    When Russell learns to put down the bag of cheetos and get off the couch thyan I will take your post seriously? Your 1st pick, franchise QB weighs as much as a friggin OT.
     
  8. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    If you've read any of my posts outside this abusrd topic of how good you think the Raiders are, or are going to be, you'd find that I've been calling for CP to be replaced... but another time and place.

    But, whilst I'm here... let us discuss your ... eehhemm .. roster moves and other Erroneous statements.

    Fact one of Football.. stats are often misleading... 6th Leading rushing team in the NFL. When you can't throw, all you can do is run, so by the end of a game, when your down by 20 or so (almost a regular thing there in Raiderville) you tend to start playing against back-ups. Even then, still unable to throw, you start to rack up rushing yards. Put it this way... The Jets couldn't Run or Throw the Ball last year and still finished with a better record than you did... how much better than the Jets do you really think you are? You didn't sign anyone of signifigance... so, what gives??? Oh yeah... Hall... I'll get to that in a minute...

    FRANCHISE QB??? Just ask anyone on the board, the Charges thought Ryan Leaf was a franchise QB, the Colts Jeff George, the list is endless. All guys with BIG ARM SMALL BRAIN SYNDROME...The same way you think Russell is a Franchise QB. Lets see him hit the field and stay there for a while. Yeah yeah, tell me how the hold out cost him the job and stunted his growth... whatever... face it, with below average talent at the position last year, he still barely made it to the field. Why... he wasn't able to pick up the offense. Another wonderlick miracle I tell ya... Time will tell, you right... Keep telling yourself that too... it just might come true. To mention him in the same sentence as Ben at this juncture, well, it's a travesty at best... Ben has won a SB, is a very good QB, and hasn't left the field since what? Week one of his rookie year?... Russel hasn't won a game yet... lets simmer down a bit.

    Javon Walker... cuoldn't stay healthy then, what makes ya think this year is any different. You threw a ton of money at a guy you could have gotten for a box of donuts and some sour milk.

    Drew Who??? ... Exactly what the rest of the board was asking... next...

    Elite corners??? One Maybe... the guy you traded for from Hotlanta, he's a mental moron at best. He can't keep his composure and get's eaten alive by wide recievers who know how to run routes because he is so undiciplined... watch some tape on him and you'll find out why Atlanta was more than happy for you to take him... I'm sure they giggled all the way to the meeting room at how they got out from under a guy who has all the talent in the world but will never realize it.... nice pick-up


    And here's another question. With two of the "RaiderJoes" best cover LBs (Morrison and Howard), who were they covering while teams were scoring points like Reggie Miller against the Knicks...

    Which leads me to Gibril Wilson... hard to find a bad thing to say about him after arguably his best year as a pro... but with your lack of a pass rush, everyone is about to remember what his liability was... pass coverage.

    EDITED IN..
    I needed to Edit this in... your organization threw elite pro bowl money at a career back up defensive tackle who couldn't stay ina rotation with aging DT's like Warren Sapp. Who does that... That's a Herm Edwards like move... are you kidding...

    Then throw in that Al Davis tried to force your coach to resign... and he wont... if you loose more than 3 or your first 6 games... your out another coach... I hope Art Shell is willing to take another shalaking...

    the only true statement you say in your rant follows:

    You are not even close... your talent level overall is lower than you think... but it's good to be optomistic, everyone is 0-0 right now. your not the second best team in the AFC West, so how are you "close" to a playoff team.


    Now I have no delsuions about the Jets team... we are not the class of our division, and will be lucky to make the playoffs. But with our additions on the offensive side of the ball, especially the O-line, we can't get worse and should have a well above average running game if we have a QB that can just complete some passes.

    Ou Defense hinges on a lot of ifs... If Jenkins can play well and moreover stay healthy at the nose. If we can find someone to actually play CB on the otherside of Revis. If we can generate something that resembles a pass rush. We should be able to make a little noise, and even surpize some of the fans. But you on the other hand make it sound like you are bound for the playoffs. Only thing that is bound to happen to the Raiders, is Al Davis is gonna make some move that bewilders everyone in football... even himself, then fire the coach... why... because he's Al Davis... and that's how he does things.


    Man... get a grip... quietly try and get better before you go boasting how good your team is... especially when it's still not that good.
     
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  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Ellis, that was an awesome post, and you wasted it on a total retard. You might as well try to teach algebra to a kitchen sponge. Good read nonetheless.
     
  10. Jetzz

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    :lol: Damn, you beat me to it... :up:
     
  11. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Thanx... I was bored at work... and had already written my piece for our show, and was now just editing in some footage... so I figured I'd burn off some steam in a good humored rant.
     
  12. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    But you forgot to mention Ms. Cleo's mad physics skills! Who knew she was a nuclear scientist.
     
  13. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    i mentioned her and the midget palm reader that keeps telling him they'll be good this year a couple posts ago ;)
     
  14. Jetzz

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    The last time the Raiders were a team to beat, Al Davis was asleep at the wheel. When he woke up and saw wtf was going on he ran the HC out of town. Who are we kidding here? :lol:
     
  15. Raiderjoe

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    Lets examine each point you made. First Raiders really didn't have the sixth best rushing team in football because they couldn't pass it.
    Well that is the dumbest statement. IF you can't throw the ball teams can load up on the run. TO still be able to run the football with teams knowing they were going to run is impressive. How do we know thism is by TOP(Time of Possessin) You don't have the time of possessin ,if you are not consistantly running the ball sucessful. Raiders oline coach Tom Cable- like his mentor Alex Gibbs, where ever hes been his team have always been able to run the football.

    Jets didn't have better record than Raiders- BOTH finished 4-12 . Dolphins and Jets were the two worst team all year. Jet won a meaniless game last game of the season, to tie the Raiders. (who now are picking two spots in front of them)

    On jamarcus Russell - Its obviously you don't know anything about the Raiders. Why didn't Russell beat out the other Qbs last year. Because he didn't sign until second week of the season. I don't care what QB your talking about, you miss all of training camp and preseason, and there is no way a rookie QB going to be able to play. Do you understand WHy that is, or should i break it down.
    Also NO timing with any of top players.
    Jamarcus Russell is the Raiders starting QB. Whose yours?

    Javon Walker when healthy is a number 1 WR. Hes 90% healthy now and will be 100% by the time of training camp. Health is the only question. IF reports are accurate, he going to be a stud. Also Revenge has a nice way of motivating a player(Shanahan said alot crap about him) BTw half the teams called his agent when he was released.(Yea shows how much you know)

    Drew Carter- Hes the speed threat. (third wr) HE there to stretch the defense . The Man has the great size 6'3 200 and blazing speed. Majority time he can be just a decoy, and hes doing his job. Opening up For Javon Walker, Ronald Curry and TE Zach Miller to do there job. You see when you have a QB that can throw the ball down the field, you can use speed WRs to get behind a secondary. (I Know when you have become a custom to Pennington five Yard pass patterns, you forget the other part of a passing offense.

    Yes Raiders have best set of starting CBs. Hall and Asomugha. Lets just put it this way Revis would be riding the bench, if he was in Oakland. Here is what your missing. Deangelo hall a 24 two time probowler is now covering the number 2 WR. N Asomugha is on number 1 WR. Now you throw in one best cover safeties M huff. How do we know this. Easy look how he has controled the top tes in the game. Raiders with their depth have easily the best secondary in football.

    Now on your point ON Morrison and Howard. I would stop now as you clearly never seen a Raider game. Tell me Genius why both have more interceptions than any pair of LBs in football. Howard might be the premier cover LB in football. The guy is so good in coverage that he played at OLB, safetyand even CB(6'3 242) The guy looks like a CB in coverage.

    Raiders lack of pass????? LMao are you kidding . This is come from a Jet fan. ONly thing Raiders passrush suffered was their guys weren't healthy last year. D Burgess has been the last three years, one of ther best pass rushers in the NFL. (was nicked up for most of the season) Tom kelly being lost for season hurt the pass rush. He dosen't get the sacks but the attention offenses pay him, open up for the other defenders to get it. Raiders signed K Edwards. I(F you know anything about Raiders Dlinecoach Keith Milliard he as a very good tract record developing speed rushers.(SEe Betrand Berry- developed very late, R Hayward, D Burgess anD Chris Clemons- who got a big payday from Eagles)
    Raiders have Thomas Howard if they want to use him as situational pass rusher . Raiders will most likely be drafting a rusher this year. Gerard Warren is very good pass rusher from DT position.
    The only question Raiders must answer on defense is Can they stop the run. They do that and they are one best defenses in football.

    YES- Raiders defense is going to be that good this year. Like I said it didn't matter who was at RB, because they were going to run the football sucessfully.
    Your able to have a dominating defense and can run the football consistantly well as they can , than mostn likely you are going to be right there for a playoff position.

    That is without counting on anything else.
     
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  16. FOURTHANDLONG

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    I have a question for you. What do Raider Fans think of facing Chad Pennington when you play the Jets? At the end of the day we were both 4-12 so we will have to see what plays out when your team comes to the Meadowlands later this year.
     
  17. Donttasemebro

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    Yahoo news is reporting that the Raiders are looking more likely to take gholston...maybe the cowboys trade their 2 first rounders to either the jets, chiefs or pats...
     
  18. BleedGreen4ever

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    Ok this is my thread and not to be an asshole but Raiderjoe can you just leave your making this rediculous. And out of all your senseless banter my favorite part was when you said Gerrard Warren was a good player. Your a joke.
     
  19. Attackett

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    You are a one trick pony, aren't you?
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I think if McFadden is there the Jets will take him in a micro-second. They will not even think about trading the pick.
     

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