The Ukrainian situation

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  1. Sundayjack

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    I find it helps to ignore all the brink-of-war noise and just focus on the glorious and unending word salad that flows so freely out of Kamala Harris. Makes waking up each day pure joy.
     
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    I don't know what to make of Harris. I really hated the pick when she was tabbed as the VP choice. Would have much preferred Klobuchar - who I think many more Americans would have related well too as a Biden surrogate. However all the focus on police violence really did her in.

    Harris, BTW, was one of the toughest prosecutors in recent LA history but she got a pass from the people who would normally have been screaming because she was African-American.
     
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    How much Ukrainian "democracy" do we have to defend before Biden's debt is paid off?
     
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    Challenge accepted...

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    Will uefa change the venue of champions league final from st petersburg russia?
     
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    If you're lucky, some day you might realize that you've been played by Russian propaganda. The facts are that Ukraine IS an imperfect, fledgling democracy and their opponent is a brutal dictatorship. But go ahead and criticize the mote in Ukraine's eye while ignoring the beam in Russia's eye. From Freedom House:

    Ukraine
    PARTLY FREE
    62
    100
    A Obstacles to Access 20 25
    B Limits on Content 21 35
    C Violations of User Rights 21 40
    LAST YEAR'S SCORE & STATUS
    61 100 Partly Free
    Scores are based on a scale of 0 (least free) to 100 (most free)

    Russia
    NOT FREE
    30
    100
    A Obstacles to Access 12 25
    B Limits on Content 10 35
    C Violations of User Rights 8 40
    LAST YEAR'S SCORE & STATUS
    30 100 Not Free
    Scores are based on a scale of 0 (least free) to 100 (most free)

    FREEDOM IN THE WORLD 2021
    Crimea*
    NOT FREE
    7
    100
    Political Rights -2 40
    Civil Liberties 9 60
    LAST YEAR'S SCORE & STATUS
    8 100 Not Free
    Global freedom statuses are calculated on a weighted scale. See the methodology.
    * Indicates a territory as opposed to an independent country.

    Countries | Freedom House
     
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    Germany agreed to stop the 10 billion Euros gas line deal with Russia.

    EU is getting ready to announce the sanctions that will target Russia's financial system. Next step will be to reduce Europe's dependence on Russian oil. The US alliance in Middle East and Mediterranean is building big gas lines towards Europe.

    Once this stage is completed, it will be a showdown between USA and China in the next 5-10 years.
     
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    Fuck Putin, if I got this right he declared regions of Ukraine “independent” on his own and then sending in troops to “aid” them.

    What’s stopping anyone else from trying that? China could do the same thing with Taiwan for example. Someone needs to knock that fucker Putin in the mouth
     
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    Sanctions may be somewhat effective, but I think its aiming at the wrong targets. You don't hit Putin directly, you go after his Oligarchs' money. You freeze their holdings and if necessary, confiscate them outright in the name of "National Security". You freeze all Russian assets in American and European banks. Money talks. Especially with the Oligarch gangsters who really are the one propping up Putin. If Putin wants to go into debt to the chinese, fine. But its the money that will get more accomplished than bullets and bombs.
     
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    stupid question, but when does spring start in Europe?
     
  12. Brook!

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    Serious answer. Make fun of me if I am missing the humor again :)

    Mediterrenan countries, by late March

    Germany and all, mid to late April

    Denmark Norway Sweden etc in June
     
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    That is trolling.
    So the USA should just let China and Russia do whatever they want?
     
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    Being the world police hasn’t been the best thing for the American public
     
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    And remember - There's no "I" in "Team America!"

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    Sorry. Couldn't resist.
     
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    UK has frozen assets of 5 Russian banks and 3 individuals. It's a start.
     
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    No humor. So the Russians realistically have about a month or six weeks to put the wood to our allies in terms of the natural gas reliance if they want to respond to sanctions. I think we can tough that out.
     
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    Fair point.
    Then I want nobody bringing China and Russia ever again.
     
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    Europe doesn't only use gas for heating homes.

    Russian gas is fueling Europen factories. So big hit for Europe will be their production outputs.
     
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    Obviously if it was a full on end of days war Russia would win but I read where Ukraine’s military ain’t too shabby (20th ish) and with the behind the scenes support from allies they could take some swipes at Russia.

    idk if Putin could survive the local objection if they start takin any life losses. Putin is kinda like Trump, he just lies out his ass to his constituents and most the smart people of Russia think he’s an asshole.

    They aren’t gonna want a bloody war with Ukraine, many of their ethnic brothers, just cause Putin tells them to.
     
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