The Ukrainian situation

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  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Some things don't age well... :confused:

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  2. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Biden needs to be harder on Putin. He should make believe he's Corn Pop. Let him really have it.
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Don’t shoot the messenger or the source as it primarily comes from a professor. Again, I hope this is true, but some of this information could just be to keep the morale up.

    I don’t completely doubt that the Russian army might be getting killed at a decently high rate against guerrilla style forces mixed in with real military forces.

     
  4. DetroitRed

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    Psaki tells the press they are trying to get OPEC to increase production to lower prices, and at the same time we are told lowering production and shutting down the pipeline has no negative impact on prices. Cant make this crap up
     
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  5. DetroitRed

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    We could literally cripple this dude if we went back to the XL pipeline. Relief to our people and put an end to this war. But these people have to be evil. What other explanation?
     
  6. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    That’s really ridiculous. What did trump do for Biden? And again, if he was such a stooge , why did t he carry out his goals while his stooge was here to do nothing about it?
    I’m not sure where you get the trailer park idiots thing from. Where I am , the trump flags were flying in the most prominent neighborhoods.
    I can understand anyone having reasons for not liking trump, Biden, or anyone else. I just dont understand why it always has to take a detour down irrational avenue
     
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  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Well that’s not true. It’s true that in the long run the pipeline was the right move to expedite moving oil throughout the country but the restarting of it’s construction does not do anything in the short term to hurt Russia.
     
  8. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Aren't we buying oil from Russia right now?

    never mind... looked it up.

    I'm buying a Tesla... :confused:
     
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  9. HomeoftheJets

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    Purely from a military standpoint, the Russian military isn't looking very good. For all their macho campaign ads, they're having a surprisingly tough time with the Ukrainians. In no way shape or form should the US go to war with Russia, but if the last couple days are indicative of the Russian military's strength, our soldiers would wipe the floor with theirs.
     
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    Chinese
     
  11. BrowningNagle

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    Very good points, I think we would too
     
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  12. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Seems they have spent decades building military strength they can’t dare use
     
  13. BrowningNagle

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    It’s not irrational it was correct.

    I made 3 claims, trump was Putin’s preferred candidate, trailer park Americans lined up to vote for trump, and when things changed (trump lost) Putin’s strategies changed. Are any of those incorrect? No.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I’m still not understanding why trump was putins preferred candidate, what he got from trump being president, and why he didn’t invade Ukraine while his preferred candidate was in office. If Russia being happy with trump means they don’t invade other countries..:: yeah, I’m still not getting it.
     
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  15. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Well I agree to an extent but in a military to military battle in a vacuum I don’t think Putin would be wrong to calculate a pretty swift and easy victory. What he miscalculated badly was thinking that the cities would be baron and he’d end up on a military to military battle.

    Citizens have stayed behind and voluntarily not only taken up arms but joined the military. Urban guerrilla warfare never works in the favor of the invaders especially with non uniformed civilians willing to die for their freedom with God behind them (Ukrainians are deeply religious people).

    What also works against him is that he hedged the majority of his offensive plan on taking the capital and chopping the head off the government with the idea that the entire country would fold. This second miscalculation is particularly egregious because western Ukrainian has a lot more rural lands flooded with military bases and assets for reinforcement.

    The last miscalculation is the set of iron stones on Zelenskyy. There are limited scenarios, even in a Ukrainian victory, that the guy with the balls of steel survives. He very easily could’ve retreated west and the guys taking up arms in the targeted capital. Talk about guts.

    In closing, Putin should’ve either watched the first trilogy of Star Wars or studied the American Revolution (or most revolutions). Fucking nitwit.
     
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  16. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Don’t know the validity of this , as it’s from the social medias, but …..



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    Its reverse sideways upside down psychology. You know, the extra sneaky deaky sinister freaky kind
     
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    Asymetrical Warfare always favors the insurgents. I would bleed the Russians everyday until the amount of coffins headed north exceeds the amount of tanks headed south. I would make the Ukraine the most dangerous place 0n earth for the Russians and their sympathizers.
     
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  19. Petrozza

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    Russia claimed that they suppressed Ukrainian air defenses in the first few hours, which appears to be false. It also looks like he underestimated how many people were actually going to fight. These citizen "territorial defense forces" are a mess and many of those people look like they've seen real guns only in movies but they are eager to fight. IMO, it's even scarier if Putin fails in the Ukraine. We all know what's gonna happen if Russia takes over Kiev and overthrows Zelensky. But what's gonna happen if they fail? I am fairly certain that Putin won't just accept defeat. What's he gonna do then?
     
  20. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    It’s insane. It works both ways too. My wife’s sister has turned into a nut from the other side. The other day my wife gets a text asking if she knew that Fauci was mother Theresa’s illegitimate child. Wtf is going on here.
     
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