Oh, I don't feel great about either position either... it's just that there are a lot of things that can happen between now and training camp. And sometimes when teams are saying things it isn't always what they mean. They are just going through the motions of saying the right things while they shore up their strategy. Sometimes the strategy is to misdirect.
I hear ya, but I think that was probably more true with Mangini than Ryan. I think Ryan throws less BS out there and just keeps his mouth shut instead of trying to mislead. While he says he likes the QBs on the roster I think he'll grab one in the draft if he sees one he likes, while WR is still a work in progress means exactly that.
Rex Ryan Happy to Go Into '09 With Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff Posted Mar 3rd 2009 2:50 PM by Ryan Wilson (RSS feed) Filed Under: Jets, AFC East By most accounts, the Jets were very successful over the opening weekend of free agency. Linebacker Bart Scott and cornerback Lito Sheppard should pay immediate dividends, particularly in new head coach Rex Ryan's blitz-happy scheme. The team also added former Ravens safety Jim Leonhard and re-signed guard Brandon Moore. All in all, not a bad few day's work. But even though this team is better -- at least on paper -- there's the lingering issue of who will replace Brett Favre. (Putting aside, for the moment, your thoughts on Favre's effectiveness, the point remains: there's a void at the quarterback position. The only question is if you think that's been the case for a couple months or a couple years.) Nonetheless, the Jets haven't yet had a veteran free-agent quarterback in for a visit, and it doesn't sounds like they will. One can argue that the Jets are taking a chance by not signing a veteran quarterback, but Ryan insists the organization is ready to go to battle with either Kellen Clemens or Brett Ratliff. The thinking here is that a Jeff Garcia or Byron Leftwich would be only stop-gap measures and the Jets need to find out if one of their current guys is the answer. Fair enough, and last season's dalliance with Favre already put the organization a year behind schedule. Plus, Ryan saw firsthand what a young quarterback can do when he's surrounded by a stifling defense and a solid running game. Joe Flacco won 11 games as a Ravens' rookie and made it all the way to the conference championship game, doing little more than handing off and completing a few play-action passes to Derrick Mason. And if Ryan's telling the truth, he thinks Clemens is capable of as much. One problem: this strategy only works if the defense is regularly able to dominate opponents. But Ryan already knows this. Obviously.
That could well be... every HC has his own sort of way of doing things. We're still getting on board to the Rex Ryan method of leading. :beer:
Heh. So I wonder now if LTJF is going to start complaining what an idiot Ryan is for failing to understand that Clemens sucks.
Maybe I can get a job with them. For the QB/ESPN analyst to say Clemens doesn't have it, he'd have to admit he was wrong when the Jets drafted the guy. Like that's going to happen. This is sort of like saying "I still think George Bush can be a great President."
So he can't admit it if he were wrong? Why not? That's also one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.
Not never, rarely. And that's because I only make comments on things about which I'm fairly certain. As Mark Twain said: Many people just post crap to post, when they really have no point. I only post when I'm confident in my opinion. I am far from a football expert, but what I do know, I know well.
at this point, the only opinion that counts belongs to rex ryan. i would not be surprised at all if he has buddy go over jet films from the past two or three years to give him an outsider's opinion of the jets offense in general and the qbs in particular. who better to assess an offense than a guy who expertise is to defend against it?
Right. I'll do that as soon as you tell me when an ESPN analyst was proven wrong about something, then the discussion about that came up again and they stuck to their guns even when proven wrong. Like I keep track of shit like that? I do recall Collinsworth admitting he was wrong a lot but don't think he's an ESPN guy. It's possible for these guys to admit they're wrong. Your statement assumes the opposite. You're wrong.
if you judge players based on preseason performances you need to learn a thing or two about football...also if you say a horrid o line is not a reason to give a guy a pass then you also have probably never played football....i dont care who the QB is, if your O - Line gives you 2 seconds to throw you are going to do absolutely nothing.... when given time clemens looked decent and id like to see what he can do when he gets comfortable in the pocket.... ratliff had a good preseason....thats all well and good but its the preseason and it means as much as a madden simulation
how?? they were preseason stats that you were using to reinforce your original point...i didnt take them out of context at all... my comments about the preseason were a general statement to your evaluation of ratliff and clemens last preseason....
Those stats were in response to someone who posted Clemens' 2007 preseason stats comparing them to Ratliff's 2008 preseason stats, while ignoring Clemens' very mediocre 2008 preseason.
