before considering how far the jets can go without fitz we have to figure out how far we can go with fitz, his 11 year career suggests not that far.
i would expect more from a 4 th yr player playing against 2nd stringers. I would expect him not to throw balls the way he did into coverage. Same mistakes over and over. Those throws are not all on the receivers. Imagine he throws a ball into coverage and gets Marshall killed? Petty has gained ground without a doubt but has he gained enough, play him with the twos and see. Geno wont be here next season if you cut anyone it is Smith because of of his lack of growth, leadership skills, the same mistakes being made over and over again his not being not under contract next yr..
There's certainly some truth to that, but I'll add, last year has the best football I've seen in a long while. I think with improved Offense, deffense and ST, Fitz can do well.
Mettenberger is a bum and always has been a bum. He had OBJ, Jarvis Landry, and Jeremry Hill on his team and he was still a bum.
Can you imagine throwing Christian Hackenburg out their as our starting QB? Crazy as that sounds, that's exactly what our team did to Mark Sanchez AND Geno Smith. Hard to believe.....and both actually did pretty good. Mark -> AFCCG, Geno won 8 games. How many games would Hack win if he starts this season? Adds perspective to how impossible it was with Rookie HC AND Rookie QB making the POs and almost making the SB. It be like if last season if TB started Petty and we got to within 15 mins of the SB.
Rich Cimini @RichCimini now41 seconds ago Bryce Petty, not Geno Smith, has followed Fitzpatrick in the last two team periods. FWIW. #nyj Hmm........... Interesting, at least!
It isn't. Giving him reps now could actually hurt his development. Gailey said that they've only made a couple of suggestions to Hack. That they're gonna wait until after the season to overhaul his mechanics. Giving him more reps now is just going to further entrench the bad fundamentals, and make it that much more difficult to change those fundamentals. In an ideal world, they'd either be working on changing his mechanics and fundamentals now or having him take zero reps throwing the ball.
There is no battle here. Geno is the clear backup and it's not even close. Petty is just a reserve at this point.
That was exactly right last week..let's see what it is by the end of camp. You don't get willed spots you actually have to earn them.
Yeah, not sure their thoughts on how to gradually bring him to the NFL, but you would think a QB who ran a pro offense at 18 years old would be able to play in NFL Preseason games. Especially a 2nd Round pick. If the plan is to completely redshirt him that is fine, but I would hope it means he can pick things up pretty quick this offseason. I don't think you would waste a 2nd round pick on a guy who won't see the field until 2018. Petty it made more sense, as it was a calculated risk. No big loss either way.
Unfortunately the Jets have a tough decision at QB. While Petty and Hack are the future, the CS might not be too comfortable to have Petty as the sole back up yet. I think Petty will get plenty of work and so will Hack particularly the last pre season game. No real decision will be made till the last second. If Petty continues strong, he might get reps with the first ream, and if he outshines Geno who knows. If either Hack, Petty or Geno come down with a hammy or some minor injury they might use the excuse and move them into IR. If not, either we go with 4, which is a bit unfortunate because we might loose a good WR, or they pull a fast one on Geno and at the last minute trade him for a low draft pick as a back up to a team in desperate need. This year the last set of cuts will hurt. Lots of talent in the making.
Great point. I agree 100%. That is why carrying 4 QB's might not be an option. Definitely not a good option.
Mac has said on several occasions that Hack won't see the field this season. It's a red-shirt season for him. He has a chance to adjust to the speed of the NFL, complexity of NFL Ds, and learn the offense. If Gailey can be trusted, they will work with Hack following the season to overhaul the mechanics of his throwing. From the standpoint of running the offense and reading Ds, Hack could play in preseason, and I'm fairly certain he will get an opportunity to play. The problem with Hack are his throwing mechanics. What good does it do to play him if his accuracy is as bad as it was at PSU? If he has a chance to make it in the NFL, he needs to fix his mechanics so that he can be a lot more accurate. I'm also fairly certain that Hack already has a pretty good handle on the offense already and is adjusting to the speed of the NFL. Once he revises his throwing mechanics, he should be good to at least compete for the starting job or functioning as the backup. Even if he doesn't see the field until 2018, how is it wasting a 2nd round pick? There are no guarantees that they'll get a shot at a QB in the 2017 or 2018 drafts who are any better prospects than Hack. He's still young. I know from my own experience as well as my students how mechanics/technique can mess one up. One isn't fully confident, and it's hard to relax and let one's talent take over, because one is constantly thinking about mechanics until they become habitual. I do think that either Hack or Petty will turn out to be the answer to the Jets' QB situation. Perhaps both will. I trust Mac's scouting and talent evaluation acumen.
Again, I must disagree. I understand your point about not wanting to lose potentially good position players, but let me ask you this? What is the most important position on the roster? What position have the Jets been sadly lacking in for most of the last 40-50 years? I'd rather keep 4 QBs, make sure that they have an experienced QB for this season, and keep the two young QBs who each have a chance to develop into a quality starter for the Jets and lose a depth position player, than keep that depth position player and wind up having to lose Petty or go into the season without an experienced backup. Let me also ask you this...Would you have been happy if the Jets hadn't re-signed Fitz and just gone with Geno as the starter so that they only had 3 QBs? I would have been, but most posters here disagree with me on that point. Granted, it's not ideal to have to keep 4 QBs, but it's not like it's never been done before or the QB position isn't vitally important. I'm actually excited that we have two good young prospects at QB who have a chance. I want to do everything possible to give both of them the best chance to develop, because in the long run, that's what's best for the Jets. If it means they have to keep 4 QBs this season and let another depth player go (who may not have developed anyway), then so be it.
this is interesting considering they have nothing of personal interest with Geno, they did not draft and all he has done on their watch is make mistake after mistake. He has been a good solder after the fight but on field he has shown no growth give him another game but reverse the rotation petty then. Geno should eat up the 3rd team if he doesn't that could be the icing on the cake
