The True QB Battle: Geno Smith vs. Bryce Petty

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by The Dark Knight, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    15,081
    Likes Received:
    9,317
    Wrong thread.
     
    #641 Ralebird, Aug 23, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2016
  2. Gremlin

    Gremlin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    590
    We'll see where Fitzy and the other #1's are at after the next game.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    16,349
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    Still laughing at how it's supposedly a HUGE RISK to go into the season with Petty at #2 now that Fitz is the starter but it was no big deal when Geno was. What a farce.
     
    Altoona and Freddy Mondo like this.
  4. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,246
    That is not confirmed yet. Petty I think should be the first QB off the bench against the Giants, if he can outplay Geno then I think the Jets can move on.

    It will take more than lighting up a bunch of camp bodies to convince me. I am sure Bowles feels the same way
     
  5. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2012
    Messages:
    4,128
    Likes Received:
    1,851
    I agree completely!
    FO's job before the season starts is to decide if Petty in fact better than Geno. To do this, they have to play Petty with 2nd team.
    I believe Fitz will be in for about 2.5 quarters against the Giants. Then it'll be Petty and last couple of series is Geno. This should give Petty taste of how higher level feels like. And for the record, I expect him to play just well enough to warrant another try.

    The last PS game will be the money game. Petty plays for half with second team, decision is made a couple of days later.
     
    101GangGreen101 likes this.
  6. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    9,490
    Likes Received:
    2,302
    In words of the legendary sage, Tom Moore:

    "If 18 goes down, we are fucked anyway. And we don't practice [fucked.]"

    If Geno does not show improvement - or present the team with developmental value [which he doesn't] - then he doesn't belong. That he has starting experience means NOTHING.
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    16,349
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    yea - and Bowles refusing to directly answer the question of who's coming in as QB 2 Saturday pretty much says it's Petty. In the past he's been very explicit about it and now is answer is "we have a plan we're not going to reveal". lol - ok Todd.
     
    NY Jets68 likes this.
  8. PulseJet

    PulseJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,985
    Likes Received:
    1,896
    From Cimini:
    "Second-year QB Bryce Petty was the Jets' star last Friday against the Redskins, but he was outplayed by Geno Smith in the two ensuing practices. Unofficially, Smith completed 23 of 38 with no INTs. In significantly fewer reps, Petty went 7-for-13 with one INT. From all indications, Smith remains the No. 2 even though Todd Bowles sidestepped the question. As for rookie Christian Hackenberg, his practice reps have increased, but the efficiency hasn't. He was 9-for-25, two INTs on Sunday and Monday. No practice today."

    But isnt that the thing with Geno? Looks good in practices, but when he gets in the game he loses his shite.
     
  9. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,970
    Likes Received:
    5,250
    I am not sure how crazy our defense is allowed to get when it comes to rushing and hitting the QB in practice.

    I am sure that the game looks very different in the pocket when opposing defenders are literally trying to kill you.

    Geno Smith could be Johnny Unitas in practice but if he can not perform when the chips are down we have no use for the guy.
     
  10. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2016
    Messages:
    15,714
    Likes Received:
    23,204
    As a college tennis player I can say you're right about how hard it is to overhaul your mechanics. Actually it's so hard that if Hack's mechanics are as bad as they seem to be it was a big reach taking him in the second round.
     
  11. edray10

    edray10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    584
    Likes Received:
    553
    Bear in mind that he appeared to have good mechanics prior to his idiot head coach screwing with them his sophomore year. If his mechanics were good then, then it shouldn't be nearly as hard to fix them.
     
    Martin&theJETS likes this.
  12. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,512
    Likes Received:
    902
    I think that it's because team expectations play big part in things.

    If Fitz was not re-signed team expectations would have been much lower. No one would be discussing playoffs. Then the narrative would have been Geno starts this season until the youngsters are ready to takeover and the whole year would be chalked up to development.

    Now that Fitz is in the fold the expectations are that we are competing for a playoff berth.

    Not that the narrative should matter but this is ny where it does.

    It's probably irresponsible to put the weight of QB'ing a playoff team on Petty's shoulders if he were thrust into action. At that point is our CS game planning for Petty's long-term success or for the teams short-term? Is the ny media questioning whether or not Geno could have gotten it done? I know Petty is a big boy but failing in NY seems to take a heavy toll on young athletes.

    Carrying 4 qb's puts a squeeze on the roster and a talented young player may be lost because of it. To me that is the opportunity cost of protecting Bryce Petty.

    *disclaimer* This is all based on my assumption that Petty will struggle big time adjusting to being the number 1 QB. If I'm wrong about that then obviously my whole viewpoint is wrong

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
     
  13. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2006
    Messages:
    4,483
    Likes Received:
    2,517
    Hack is a brilliant kid. To think he is some salvage project is non-sense. He was ordered to do things outside his comfort zone. Hack needs some work just like any other rookie QB.
     
    Imagesrdecieving likes this.
  14. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    1,058
    Likes Received:
    206
    I am both awestruck, sad and deeply disappointed by the profoundly alarming decline in the quality (or should I say the nearly total abject absence of quality therein) of our media in general and the sports media in particular. The overwhelming majority of them are sorely lacking in knowledge and expertise but are either blissfully unaware of the fact or just don't care. Most reporters these days seem more preoccupied with stirring the pot when projectile vomiting their baseless, idiotic opinions or by raising transparently intentional incendiary questions just like your common, everyday, basement-dwelling, internet troll just for the sake of: 1.) trying to generate controversy (where often none truly exists)
    2.) "getting hits," or perhaps, 3.) just to be hated as I suppose it's often better to be "hated" than ignored in this business. A good many of the online media working for the major news outlets are shockingly poor writers with a stunning lack of command of the English language reflected by their weak grammar and even weak spelling on occasion. When I do read some of their articles, I often ask myself in amazement whether they even bother to proofread their own work. Are they too lazy or just simply that stupid? I also can't and won't listen to any of the popular radio and TV personalities/talking heads, regardless of the format, be they a duo, group or a single voice spewing (for me at least) more moronic and painfully indigestible nonsense than I can bear.

    I guess this sad state of affairs is just a reflective by-product of the "dumbing down" of America which, if I take the time to think about it, depresses me to no end. OTOH, maybe I've just become too old and out-of-step with modern culture and the world of today.
     
    Walt White and NCJetsfan like this.
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    Messages:
    52,976
    Likes Received:
    25,036
     
  16. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2002
    Messages:
    4,916
    Likes Received:
    2,938
    That's the frustrating thing about Smith. The physical tools are there. How long do you give him to translate those tools into NFL success? Will he ever?
     
  17. PulseJet

    PulseJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,985
    Likes Received:
    1,896
    You would think that a 4 year pro facing off against other teams second and third-team defenses would light it up. Right? So not sure why the second year QB's progress would be criticized because he only did it against walk-ons.
     
  18. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2003
    Messages:
    9,544
    Likes Received:
    12,689
    Exactly the problem.
    It's frustrating to see many flashes of brilliance mixed with complete brain farts that not even a rookie should make. It's like he is unable to keep his concentration over the course of a game. When he does he is spot on, but then he drifts into a black hole like he is not even aware of what is going on around him.
     
  19. SOJAZ

    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,028
    Likes Received:
    2,550

    What game were you watching? he was blitz frequently and the 1st TD he was hit right after hhe threw the ball.
     
    Altoona likes this.
  20. SOJAZ

    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,028
    Likes Received:
    2,550


    Bingo! One more point the NYmedia RC in general likes to stir the pot and his evaluation are meaningless.
     
    James Hasty likes this.

Share This Page