The True QB Battle: Geno Smith vs. Bryce Petty

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  1. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    LMAO... talk about seeing what you wanna see...
     
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    Of course. It's Not For Long at the Glory Hole. What else could NFL stand for?
     
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    zace Well-Known Member

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    I saw whats there, you dont have to like it. Other than a drive for a missed field goal, im confused as to what every thinks Petty did so well. Nobody can give me a solid answer.

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  4. RuJFan

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    Can you apply the same "saw what's there, you don't have to like it" attitude to posts of others who don't have overwhelming urge to defend Geno and shit on all his competition?
     
  5. zace

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    You dont have to like it. Its a fact, he wasnt bad and petty wasnt great. Nobody was bad, nobody was great and petty certainly didnt outplay anyone on either team. So your attempt at sarcasm failed because you dont even grasp what was being said.

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  6. RuJFan

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    It's not a fact, it's your opinion.
     
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    Im pretty sure the stats say exactly what i said. Nobody was great. The play reflected it. So no you dont have to like it, but thats what happened.

    Reality is, thers no qb competition at all. Hack sits, Petty is 3, Geno is 2, Fitz is 1. Its gonna be that way. Theyll carry 4 qbs.

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  8. The Dark Knight

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    Great responses so far. Thanks. Another question that should be asked: How far can the Jets go if Fitz goes down?

    Can Geno do enough to get them to the playoffs if he is the #2? How much more can he do than Petty?

    If the answer is the Jets are screwed either way, then I think you would keep Petty by default. If the team feels Geno gives them a legitimate chance to compete for the playoffs, then you keep him easily.
     
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  9. RuJFan

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    If Geno and Petty continue playing at the level we saw on Thursday, and there no injuries to QB, Geno will be cut.
    Book it.
     
  10. Walt White

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    I was just considering that in another thread. I think it's bad loss and our chances would go way down. But we'll see more in the next two preseason games how far Petty has come.

    The encouraging thing to me is that Petty appears to be going up the curve, and that's exciting.

    I'm afraid that Geno just doesn't know how to dish the pill in the flow of the game, and I already think he has not gone up the curve. You have to see something in the third year
    But, there's still two games to see yet
     
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    IMO Geno and Petty play about the same. So if Fitz goes down, either will give same chance of getting into PO.
     
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    Thats not happening and ill gladly take you up on a bet with that. Youre nuts if you think that. Even after Fitzpatrick came back, Geno got some reps with the ones, Petty didnt.

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    Geno is capable of making many great throws but, confoundingly, just as capable of making many bad throws reflecting both poor mechanics and judgment. He's consistently inconsistent which drives me absolutely crazy and I always find myself just waiting for the other shoe to drop with him.

    He had the "yips" while basically almost spiking several check down passes against the Jags the other night and, for me at least, this is less than confidence inspiring for a QB with his level of playing experience who is also trying to make a league-wide point of his value as a potential starter somewhere else in the future. Petty, on the other hand, executed a beautiful check down pass to Romar Morris (whom I really hope we hold onto) and who possesses an on field demeanor and leadership presence that is visibly much more apparent and confidence inspiring than Geno. I wish they had kept J. Marshall, Ross and Peake in the game longer because overall conditions became much more challenging for Petty after they were pulled from the game as well as when the lesser o-lineman were rotated in.

    I would really like to see Petty have some pre-season game playing time with a more favorable/potent mixture of our #1 and 2 offensive roster to see how he performs with the hope of possibly better gauging his potential and readiness (or lack thereof) to assume the role of a #2 backup QB.
     
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  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I never said Geno was shit. It seems you took my legitimate criticisms to heart. Is Geno not allowed to be criticized in your book? His footwork is a problem and is the root cause of his inconsistency. This was clearly on display Thursday night.

    Overall, Geno and Petty had similar decent performances. The main difference IMO was that Petty has much better footwork and movement in the pocket. If you don't have the foundation of good footwork, the rest is always going to be a struggle. That's why Petty looks like a better option to groom at this point IMO.
     
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    It was obviously your thought because i never addressed you personally when i originally posted. In fact all i said was he was ok. I didnt say he was great, he was fine. You apparently took exception to that and vowed to prove that he wasnt. I added he wasnt outplayed by Petty. I didnt say Petty was the worst ever and could never play. I said he needs time, he does.

    Criticize all you want cuz im all over every player who makes a mistake. Just don't act like everything wrong with Geno is the worst and anyone else gets a pass or is ok. Petty wasnt impressive, he looked better, but hes got a lot of work.

    All the Qbs on this roster need work. Its the bottom line, but theyre in the correct order on the depth chart.

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    Your post said it's not even close between Petty and Geno. That's wishful thinking. There is a battle for #2 QB this preseason whether you want to admit it or not. The front office doesn't have much stock in Geno and clearly aren't banking on him for QB of the future. How do I know this?

    Year 1 of this FO:
    • Inherit Geno Smith after 2 poor seasons
    • Draft QB in round 4
    • Trade for QB

    Year 2:
    • Draft QB in round 2
    • Overpay for journeyman QB on first day of training camp
    This front office has stock in Petty, Hackenberg and Fitzpatrick. Geno needs to impress them if he wants a roster spot this year. PS week 1 was ... OK. Year 4 still sloppy footwork? Good luck with that.

    If it's even between Geno and Petty, Petty will get the nod. Take it to the bank.
     
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    There is no competition, and i find it laughable you think there is. Geno is better. Im sorry you have a hard time accepting that. The Jets are carrying 4 qbs. Geno is one of them. It literally makes zero sense to even entertain cutting him.

    Hes cheap, has staring experience, is the better than any other option available to the jets. Petty hasnt proven anything. For you to think a team in win now mode would cut its second most experienced qb on the roster for an unproven 4th rounder is absurd. The front office doesnt even think that highly of Fitzpatrick, and they like him. So if Fitzpatrick gets hurt or is terrible, you think hes going to a Petty? You obviously dont understand the type of coach Bowels is.

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  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    What exactly has Geno proven?
     
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    Does anyone know when the last time an NFL team carried 4 QB's was?
     
  20. The Dark Knight

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    I think I showed both sides of the equation pretty well in this thread. Before Thursday, it was not really a question since nobody knew how Petty was doing. He looked pretty good though, while Geno did not look great, so the question is being asked now. Todd Bowles can squash this pretty quick by playing Fitz in the first half and then Geno in the 2nd half on Friday against the Redskins. Or add fuel to the fire by giving Petty a shot with the 2's. We will see. I agree this is a win-now Jets team, but they also have been looking at the future with each move they make. Mac seems like a big picture guy.
     
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