The True QB Battle: Geno Smith vs. Bryce Petty

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  1. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    LOL You're funny!
     
  2. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Yes they should, there isn't an NFL insider who doesn't think they should. Fitzpatrick is no luck, neither is Geno, Petty hasn't played a regular season game and Hack isnt seeing a field. So wheres this luxury? Our QB situation sucks

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  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Don't worry, I'll be back on your bad side soon.
     
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    back in the day they all sucked ass their rookie years and got better. These days teams just have less patience and we've had a couple extraordinary rookies. Its the Jets fault anyway they are the ones that couldn't seem to properly manage the QB position for the entire Rex Ryan tenure.

    Geno Smith should've been doing what Hackenberg is doing his rookie year and I'm pretty sure if we started Hack this year he'd struggle not unlike Smith did his rookie year. Maybe less bonehead decisions but more inaccuracy, who knows, it would be ugly. But to answer your question, players can get better for sure, although I don't think Geno Smith will ever be "great"
     
  5. RuJFan

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    Its funny how you're relying on "insiders" and say nothing about the actual play. Too afraid to take the blinds off?
     
  6. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Youre retarded, i dont even know what to say. You obviously don't know what youre looking at. It doesnt matter who you like, there is no one anywhere who thinks we have a good qb situation. If you watched actual play, youd know. All qbs are throwing multiple picks in practice and nobody looked great in preseason game 1. So ill take youre opinion with the littlest grain of salt.

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  7. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    What fun would this site be if that didnt happen?

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  8. RuJFan

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    You don't know what to say and you call me retarded? Oh the ironing....
    Don't change the topic. We are not talking about Jets QB situation as a whole, we are talking about Geno vs. Petty. You know, the thread topic.
    I did watch them play, and they do look the same at the moment. You can shove your head in the sand all you want, it won't change the situation: if Geno doesn't show he is better than Petty, there is no reason for FO to keep him.

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    Call me a name one more time, I'll report every one of your posts until you get a very hefty vacation. Am I making myself clear, zit?
     
  9. zace

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    I call you whatever i want. Go try that, i dont think itll work. Stop trying to be internet tough, you dont scare or worry me. What are you 12? Youre mad because your idea got shot down and cant handle it. Can you post anything logical to support your idea? I dont think so. Your idea of Geno not being here got shot down by that article. Its not happening. And honestly had the injury noy happen, Fitzpatrick wouldn't have started. The CS made that very clear. There was no qb controversy then, and there isnt not. If you cant see that, well then, you need help. I dont know whatelse to tell you.

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  10. Zach

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    Geno Smith
     
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  11. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    You need to read more, your reading comprehension is emberassing. Gotta talk slowly.... Let's try.

    G e n o i s s a m e a s P e t t y.
    I f h e d o e s n ' t g e t b e t t e r h e w i l l b e c u t.
    T h i s i s b e c a u s e h i s c o n t r a c t i s d u e n e x t y e a r s, a n d F O h a s n o l o v e f o r h i m.

    better?
     
  12. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Youre an idiot. Theyre not even close to the same as i explained 50 times. Obviously youre reading comprehension needs help. Remember that post where i stated the fact that Petty didnt score a td? Go reread that then get back to me.

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  13. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Geno fans, these are facts:
    1. The Current Jets front office did not draft him.
    2. They drafted Bryce Petty in 2015.
    3. They drafted Christian Hackenberg in 2016.
    4. They paid Ryan Fitzpatrick $12 million to return in 2016.
    5. Geno's contract runs out after the 2016 season.

    He is as good as done as a Jet. I have seen this too many times before. Now my question when making this thread was "Has Petty reached a point where the Jets can cut ties with Geno now or will they wait til the offseason?"

    This has many factors though. If Petty truly has shown no progress and they don't feel he can be a solid starter or back-up, you cut him and roll with 1. Fitz 2. Geno 3. Hack for 2016. If he has shown progress and you feel his future is bright, but not quite enough to be a back up in 2016, then you roll with 4 QB's. If you feel he has shown enough progress to be the Jets' #2, then I think you cut or trade Geno.
    Other factors include how good Geno is playing too. How much has he grown and progressed? So it seems simple, but it is actually complicated.
     
  14. HomeoftheJets

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    Since 2000 there have been none who turned out great. All were busts except two: Alex Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
     
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  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Shows how much of a GM you are!
     
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    Hell be here this season, thats a given. Petty hasn't shown anything that makes you think cutting Geno now is a good idea, nor is Fitzpatrick good enough or without injury risk to make you just cut the only other qb you have with any NFL experience. Go ask Dallas how big a deal that is.

    Just remove Hack from any plans for this season..... He got a total of 4 reps in practice yesterday. He didnt play because hes not getting a lot of reps on practice.

    Theres no way you go into a season with a 4th round project qb as you main backup to Fitzpatrick. Thats the kinda move that gets gms fired. This regime has shown that they arent going to make rash decisions to appease fans. That includes the Fitzpatrick negotiations. You havent seen Petty face a real defense. You havent seen him outside of practice and a few preseason games.

    I dont think anyone disagrees that this is Smiths last season here, but that doesnt mean he is the worst qb on the roster. Youre one bad injury away from Fitzpatrick being out, you really think this coach, who is modeled after Bill Parcells, want Petty in there?

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  17. zace

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    Fitzpatrick is good????? Maybe not a bust but definitely beneath Alex Smith, whom I also don't think highly of.

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    imagine using 1 preseason game to evaluate Petty as a QB for the entire regular season. The dude improved, but holy fuck some of you guys you need to temper your expectations. Geno Smith will be here this season, he won't get cut because Petty ain't ready yet. He can face vanilla defenses all he wants, but when it comes time to evaluate things on the field with those crazy blitzes, his brain will fry faster then those eggs on the '80s Anti-Drug Commercial.

    Any questions? We are carrying 4 QBs barring a crazy progression from Petty or Geno just being 100% crap.
     
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  19. The Dark Knight

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    Technically Fitz is not a great example, as a 7th round pick out of Harvard. Picked 250th overall. Not much was expected out of him and he has far exceeded any expectations. He was pretty bad in Buffalo though and looked pretty good as a Jet last year, so I get mentioning him.
    My original post stated "assuming the Jets only keep 3 QB's" and I said it is too early to tell and just 1 preseason game. I don't think anyone has said anything too extreme in this thread.
     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Tom Tupa says hi.

    Funny how you get to declare Petty isn't ready yet, and that's fine, but people who think he could be ready "need to temper expectations". haha

    OK, got it. No QB has ever come in year two and been capable of playing backup.

    There's nothing exceptional about Geno Smith as a backup QB. He can easily be beaten out.
     

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