Again, from the standpoint of the Yankees who spend at all costs to win, and trade prospects to get superstars just about every trade deadline...losing three straight years in the first round and 4 years ago blowing a 3-0 lead. Yes..that's choking...period. Lets compare who is in the division with the Yankees. The Red Sox and "everyone else" The Yanks have the higher payroll and SHOULD beat out the Sox for the Division crown. I will say though unless the Yanks get some better starting pitching..it won't MATTER how much offense you have. Mussina is done...so is Clemens Who is the rotation next year? Wang, Hughes, Pettitte, Joba, and who else?
If you add Santana to the equation, who are you deducting - Hughes and Joba, or Hughes and Kennedy? Santana is not a FREE agent. And, if not Santana, you would be willing to go into the season with three rookie pitchers? Thats unprecedented for a contending team. In fact, thats probably unprecedented for any major league team.
Most media pundits expect the Yankees to spend so much this winter that everything they have done in the past will pale in comparison. So, who cares who is subtracted? They will be replaced too. Personally, I hope they let Posada and Rivera walk even if it sets them back two years. Posada can go to the Mets and bat .250 again. Rivera can go anywhere he wants. If anybody else doesn't like it trade them too. This isn't a good FA class but others will be.
LOL..you really need to get a life that doesn't include the Yankees. We can all understand your obsession but really, you need to be limits on yourself.
Is the next Yankee manager going to get performance based incentives? If not, the Yankee hierarchy has some explaining to do. I mean, didn't Yankee president, Randy Levine, say this was the new business model?
That's right. And shouldn't the Yankees' President and General Manager be held to the same standards? Oh, but wait! Dandy Randy joined the Yankees in January, 2000. Hmmm...the last championship team was pretty much in place by then. Since then, they hit the skids in the post-season. Maybe Wright, Pavano, Proctor, Farnsworth and all the rest of the acquisitions since then had something to do with it.
Who are they going to spend on? Kyle Lohse? Kevin Millar? I can't wait to see the standings next year if the plan to get better is to sign all the "top" free agents.
That's exactly it.... Don posted in another thread that they will let Posada, Rivera and Petite go. He says they'll trade Damon and Matsui, if Arod opts out subtract him. That leaves their lineup lik this OF Melky OF- Abreu OF - Grbage FA C- Garbage FA 1B- Alphabet Soup / Garbage FA 2B - Cano SS- Jeter 3B - Garbage FA DH - Giambalco/ Garbage FA I don't care how great these rookies may be down the road but there is no way they all come in and domiante right off the bat. If they do somebody please put this in their sig. That lineup combined with @ least 3 very very young pitchers equals about 75 wins. There is no way they get Santana w/o giving up Hughes/Melky and another stud pitcher, The Twisn did not become one of the best small market franchises by making bad trades. See how they got Nathan, Liriano and I'm blanking. They also Johan from the Marlins by giving up nothing. In fact the only bad move they've made was letting go of Ortiz but his numbers in Minny weren't quite what they are in Boston.
Could you stop listening to Don already. I have already said what I think. Arod stays, they resign Posada, Pettite stays but they let Mo go. Matsui and Damon arent going anywhere and will be the LF/Dh combo. Matsui brings in too much revenue from Japan to even think about letting him go and with the platoon it would leave both players fresher for the field as Damon's legs would have time to rest if he isnt in LF everyday. I do have a feeling that they will trade Giambi. They will have to pay most of the salary but I believe that he is gone. I also get the feeling that they would be able to get Willis for alot let than Santana and if the Twins do trade Santana, it wouldnt be until the trade deadline when Minny decides if they are in the race or not. Joba becomes the new closer, so you would have a rotation of Willis, Hughes, Pettite, Kennedy and Mussina. Mussina is the wild card. Hopefully, he would want to end his career in Balt where he started it and they can trade him in which case the Yankees would go to the FA market for their 5th starter. C Posada 1B Phillips/Mienky 2B Cano 3B A-rod SS Jeter RF Abreu CF Melky LF Matsui/Damon JMO. But it seems to be the most logical.
Obviously your scenario is more likely but alot of how the Yankees look next season will depend on whether or not Arod is back next year. I thuoght I read he wanted Torre back but it wouldn't figure into his decision. Right Alex all tha figures into your decision is $$$. After the way the team treated Joe I don't see how any of "his" guys will be back. They understand it's a business but there is way you handle that business and they handled it wrong. I could see guys like Mo, Posada and Pettite leave. Mussina may want to finish his career in Bmore but does Bmore want him back? I believe they will have a new look and I firmly believe Arod is opting out. I hope for the sake of the Yankees he doesn't because baseball needs the Yankees to be good. W/O A Rod the Yankees aren't good. Lets be honest, you guys need Arod. Things may be fine now but 2 years down the road they might be very very bad.
I'm all for getting rid of Torre, but the way this was done has me disappointed and borderline embarrassed.
Baseball needs to implement a system that doesn't allow two teams to spend tons of money and basically be guaranteed playoff spots every freaking year. Baseball would be a lot better if more teams had a realistic shot at winning.
so have a team like the Rockies making the world series is just impossible, right? Same for the Indians? (potentially) Meanwhile, the Mets, who had one of the highest payrolls in baseball missed the playoffs all together. And the Yankees, who had the highest, got knocked out in the first round... Great points though
What i find amazing is that everyone bitches and whines when the Yankees and Red Sox make the world series, but when it's Cleveland or Detroit, none of those people even watch. :rofl:
+1 Also, for all the people that moan and complain about competitive balance, 18 different teams have qualified for the post-season in the last three years. MLB might not have as much parity as the NFL, but revenue sharing and the luxury tax has definitely evened the playing field.
The Dodgers are a scumbag organization. They left Brooklyn, remember. Why should anybody be shocked that they screwed their manager when they screwed a whole borough.
