The strange gets stranger...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by mezzavo, Nov 19, 2024.

  1. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to trade him to the vikings last offseason.
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Damn man...I explained it another thread...I'll go digging. Believe it or not, I DO have an explanation! LOL!!!
     
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    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Blaming Woody is so lazy to me. He’s a terrible owner, but Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh and Aaron Rodgers have all been terrible too. Them not taking accountability makes me so much angrier than the actual failure. It’s embarrassing.
     
  4. LAJet

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    I don’t think anyone would disagree with the short comings of both JD and RS, but Woody meddling and demands to get players and coaches and which players to negotiate or not are symptoms of an owner who does not know what he doesn’t know, incapable to attract and to select top people by giving them the freedom to manage the day to day. As a result, he will not find the top talent that is needed to turn this mess round once and for all. History is not on his side.
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    As I'm sitting here lamenting what it is to be a Jets fan, one of my employees is a Carolina fan. Kid actually played at Alcorn St., Linebacker, and he's in the same boat only that team is just getting started with their ineptitude. Tepper has owned the team for, what, 6...7 years and he's on his 5th head coach. Insult to injury, Frank Reich wanted C.J. Stroud and Tepper forced him to draft Young.

    There seems to be a trend going on, especially with the old guard dying off, that these new owners are, not only Billionaires, but apparently they all are lifelong football gurus with decades of football knowledge. (yes, dripping with sarcasm) I guess I say this with the intent of assuaging our flagging spirits. It's always nice to know that, when you are a sinking ship, there are others sinking with us.
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    you make a good point on the ownership issue. The NFL history was dominated by family ownership, and these families grew up with the teams and in many of the cases were founders of the league…think the Rooney’s in Pitt, the Mara’s in NY, the Hunts with KC, Davis with Da Raiders, etc.

    The thing is that these families grew up with it and knew how to run teams.

    Nowadays, the franchise values are SO crazy that families just can’t do it anymore. It’s all corporate billionaires now. And many of them are or have been very successful in other businesses and those egos make them think they know everything. They don’t. But one thing that the successful ones do know is how to run a business. And a key part of running a business is understanding talent…what it looks like, how to attract it, how to reward it, how to retain it.

    Guys like Woody, who are NOT successful businessmen and who didn’t build or run anything, don’t necessarily have that skill set. Woody CLEARLY does not. He is clueless…we’ve all seen people like that at work…they don’t know shit. The worst ones are the ones who THINK they know. Like Woody.

    And this latest development where the NFL is now allowing Private Equity funding to come into the league is going to be a fucking disaster. Trust.

    If any of you know or work with PE firms, you’ll know that the ONLY thing they care about is return on investment. This is not going to end well. And I get the NFL is saying oh, it’s limited to no more than 20% investment…so what? Just because it’s not at least 50% with a board seat doesn’t mean they can’t influence control. They can. And they do.

    All right…rant over
     
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    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. Difference is the previous guard was old school owners with a tradition and legacy in the NFL, coupled with solid understanding of the NFL landscape, with every pitfall and ways to build a long term successful franchise. The new guard is immediate results oriented who is more concerned with near term media and fan perception than long term success. Being successful in a business does not make them capable of building a proper NFL franchise without help from the best in the football business.
     
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    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    I think Woody exercised incredible/too much patience with Idzik, Bowles, Douglas, Gase, Saleh, and especially Mike MacCagnan.
    Not defending Woody, but after so many disaster hires, anybody would get tired of watching his team lose this much.
     
  9. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Damn skippy! Well said!!!!

    Showed this to my Carolina employee. He's not happy at what his team looks like, just as we are in Jet land. What I want to know is, what the heck did Washington do that the others aren't? Is it really as simple as Jayden Daniels?
     

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