I'm responding to your post, but this is really to everyone that posted similarly. On the whole, a 9-7 is a nice year for this team. Before the season: 9-7 was more than we could hope for. At 4-4 at the bye week: 9-7 would mean a good finish. After losing to Bears: 9-7 was a reasonable goal. However... At 7-5, tied with 4 other teams for a wild card, playing well better than at any point of the season and having 4 winnable games in front of us: 9-7 just doesn't cut it. The equation has changed. It's like being a geek in high school and getting the courage up to ask a pretty girl to the prom. Surprisingly, she says "yes". Then a week before the prom, you wreck your dad's car, get grounded, and need to cancel the date. You can be happy that the girl said "yes", but the disappointment of not closing the deal hurts. If she never said "yes", the grounding wouldn't have been so bad.
Yer a f'n riot DBJ.... and I mean that in a positive way, lol. Rewrite: Yer a geek in HS. You ask the captain of the cheerleaders out to the prom. She says yes, but you don't get laid. But, you have a good time, and she agrees to another date. ....... Four years later, you've graduated Harvard at the top of yer class, and the prettiest girl from HS wants a ring with a rock in it. Sometimes, being patient pays off, ya know?
When you have a season like were having, expectations get raised. If we go on a 4 game slide the rest if the year and lose ugly, is it really ok because everyone wrote us off before a down was played this year? Will all the things that everyone likes about the CS remain the same if we get blown out the rest of the year? I don't think so. The stakes have risen, and as a Jets fan I couldn't be happier about it.
Well the flip side of your argument is that we are 6-2 against teams with losing records and we've got 4 games in a row against that type of team. That would suggest 10-6 as the end record...
Yeah.... it would. IF history held fast as a predictor of the future. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for 11 wins, but my head says that is not a reasonable expectation. 9 OR 10 wins is what I think is a reasonable expectation at this point. At 10 wins, it's pretty dicey to be looking for a wild card. I have also changed my expectations..... from 7 or 8 wins to 9 or 10.
I can't even begin to describe what it would do for our team to win 3 out of the next 4. The players have bought into Mangini as a coach and that is a great thing. But even a thing like going 1-3 the rest of the way(regardless of what the expectations were going in) COULD put a SMALL crack in Mangini's credibility from a players standpoint(imagine we start well next year with higher expectations and then suffer any sort of collapse towards the end of the year). Mostly because the schedule in front of them is what it is. To finish at 10-6 would be the icing on the cake and really validate everything that Mangini has been preaching all along. He has proven himself as a more than competant coach so far - going 10-6 makes him teflon. It would also give the younger players some top notch experience - to have taken part in a play off race and succeeded. If they don't finish up 10-6 it in no way makes Mangini's 1st season a failure. It just drops his grade from f#cking unbelievable to wow that was amazing :grin:
I agree anything less than 10 & 6 or 9 & 7 right now would be a big downer but the low expectations for this team going into the season I still don't get. It was obvious during TC and preseason that we had a physical and mentally prepared team. We faced a schedule of bums this year. To expect anything less than an 8 & 8 season this year based on the schedule and a healthy Pennington was a total miscalculation of what the NFL has become. The reality is we may win 9, 10 or even 11 games this year and next year win 6 or 7 based on schedule alone. This year we effectively got the date and both you and the girl live next to the Prom site and don't need Dad's car to get there. This is one of those years that being grounded doesn't mean you can't sneak in.
Maybe the fact he's won 2 playoff games for this team...one of which being on the road against the hottest team in the league, and the other being on a 20 degree day in January (but he can't play in cold or bad weather right?). Oh by the way, those BS 2 playoff wins, they happen to be more than any other Jet QB has ever had. And like someone else said, every time he has been healthy, we've made the playoffs...and we're on the same track this year. We've waiting FORTY years just for a Jets QB to win 2 playoff games, now you're so sure you're going to be able to find an even better QB that easily huh? You'd think as a Jets fan you'd appreciate when you finally have someone competent and successful at such a crucial position. Perhaps you'd like a return to the Neil O'Donnell days?
A pathetic history is not a reason to celebrate mediocrity. And I don't think Pennington has any particular problem playing in the cold, although with the type of ball he throws obviously windy days would be a problem.
You mean like the 40 mph winds in Buffalo when he beat the Bills? Or the 20 mph winds Sunday in a 2 degree wind chill? Or maybe you're referring to the rain, mud, and gusty wind up at New England a few weeks ago when he outplayed Tom Brady?
You mean the game where he threw maybe 3 passes over 10 yards and the Jets were outgained by 200 yards and they returned a fumble for a TD? It wasn't 40mph winds either there may have been gusts but that wasn't consistent. As for the GB game when the defense isn't within 10 yards of your WRs a little wind doesn't matter too much. And he certainly didn't outplay Brady, he threw a terrible pass that Cotchery somehow came down with for a TD.
:rofl: OK genius. Brady was HORRID in that game, you're a complete idiot if you don't realize Pennington outplayed him that day. And sure, keep making your excuses...while we keep laughing as Chad will continue to be the starter :wink:
The difference in the game is that the Jets scored off the Brady INT and the Pats didn't off the Pennington one. The Pats were deep in Jets territory on that drive when Gabriel coughed the ball up, that was the turning point of the game.
I never wish I could have been more wrong than I was with this post. Today was another SOJ moment. The entire fan base in a frenzy over the playoffs and the Jets not only lose, but they didn't even bother to show up. Today's game was an embarrassment. I don't want to hear about the Bills being a good team. Pennington (and I am a huge Penny fan) sucked. The play calling sucked. They never tried to stretch the field. The defense wasn't aggressive. And not going for it on 4-1, down by 8 was right out of Herm's playbook. I could stand a loss, but the way we lost was sickening. This game was a big setback...not in terms of wins and losses, but in terms of culture change. I'm not saying this season hasn't been a huge success (because it has), but this team still has got to learn to win in December before we can get to where we need to be. DbJ