The Return of The Hidden Production: A Quinnen Williams story

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  1. Br4d

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    Pressure up the middle makes any QB less effective, even the mobile ones. Setting the edge against the quick QB's is really important once they get flushed out of the pocket. Lamar Jackson is hard to contain and you're unlikely to sack him with any edge rusher unless the OT whiffs on the initial rush.
     
  2. ColoradoContrails

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    Yes, pressure up the middle has become increasingly more important the past few years, but it doesn't happen effectively or consistently without pressure from the edge, and a decent secondary. Guess what the Jets have been lacking these past few years? No doubt Leo would've been much more productive than he was, and QW can be if this situation is remedied. But this again highlights the absolute cluelessness of Macc in knowing how to build a team. Without any real proof, I'm much more hopeful that Douglas knows what he's doing.
     
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    I'm at Steps 2,3 and 4. Here's hoping Dr. Douglas can get the Jets out of purgatory. The Williams pick sucks so bad. There was absolutely no reason to take him.
     
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    Hopefully he'll have that future on another team. If Greg Williams can't get it out of you it will never be there.
     
  5. FJF

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    Williams looking trim
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  6. LF911SC

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    Who cares?
    Where does it say he has to?
    Please post and list all those sources
     
  7. LF911SC

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    Year 2 isnt 4-6 years.
    How about this, do you want to give up after one year and have him become a HOF lineman? Does the over the top example work both ways?
    I always need to ask, what sweat is it off anyones ass if we wait a couple of years? Did it kill us with Leo only becoming a good DL and not a top DL like predicted?
     
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    Yeah, this just isnt true. Look at what the Pats have been doing the last few years, all their pressure comes up the middle.

    As for Macc, he was clueless. I wanted Allen, thought we needed an edge more than an interior lineman
     
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    This is true. The Pats have done it with great blitzing inside linebackers, space eating defensive tackles and Jordan Jenkins type of good edge setting edge players. They've had one truly dominant edge rusher in Chandler Jones, in their two decades of dominance. And he was shipped away after being a clown.

    You can manufacture pressure if you have players who want to play as a unit rather than an individual. It's just incredibly tough to find 7 players up front that want to do that, let alone 11 for the entire unit.

    Dont'a Hightower has probably been their best pressure generator for a long time. He doesn't put up gawdy sack numbers but he's a killer with up the middle pressure.

    Let's give Quinnen Williams a chance. He only had one magical year of dominant production in college but man was he dominant and fast.
     
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    All the more reason why the Jets are still interviewing DT prospects. They can nab a beefy NT in the later rounds to leave Q strictly off that position. Foley and McLendon are good starts but you need depth there in case of injury.
     
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  11. FJF

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    I wonder if they told him to slim down so they can use him as a 4-3 end?
     
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    A little bit of toning up wouldn't hurt him, he just looked phat last season :D
     
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    Oh no, don't settle for a 2nd round pick for Q or some poster named "Joe" will go ballistic. When I suggested 2 weeks ago that we offer Q for Washington's 2nd rounder (a high pick) AND OT Trent Williams, Joe almost had a heart attack calling me "dumb" and others "nutty" for daring to suggest that the jets move Q.
     
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    If this was tongue in cheek then excuse my reasoning, but he was listed 300 ish on the website which is fine for a DT but not nearly BIH enough to play the nose which he did quite a bit last year. If he did lose weight, he’s def not playing the nose anymore...
     
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    The in-joke is the Phat part tbh ;) really it was originally about Leo Williams
     
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    Nice high and tight haircut tho.
     
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  18. LF911SC

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    Did you read anywhere that he was told to slim down?

    Or did he, as with lots of college players, change his body by taking his workouts and lifting to a new level as required in the NFL. Its not college where you can dominate with your natural strength.
     
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    Indeed, a proper haircut.
     
  20. FJF

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    I don’t read anything but that’s a big transformation from when he was drafted. Typically they give players some instruction before the players leave for the offseason on what they want to see, bigger and stronger ,leaner and more explosive , something to dictate how they may use him more next year or to improve on. But I’m just wondering out loud based on my first thoughts on the picture.
     
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