The purged players seems like it was a great move

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    he can't cover a TE. i will say we do miss him in the run game up the middle. lee and davis get pushed around a lot more as they are smaller faster guys, but harris hasn't had speed to get to the outside in years. if he was in they would exploit that anyway and people here would complain about how he's old and slow. You think belichick is not playing him for no reason?
     
  2. Zach

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    Okay...

    1. It's not about whether Bowles is gone or not.

    2. The point is this: with Bowles as HC, ANY GM LOOKS HORRIBLE. I repeat. With Bowles as GM, Bill Polian will look like a disaster. Bruce Smith under Bowles won't be that far off from what we get out of Leo and Wilk. THAT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE GM.

    3. Thus we can't figure out what we have in Mac until Bowles is gone. After all, all the drafted kids are coached by Bowles, not by Mac.
     
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  3. ColoradoContrails

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    Okay. Got it. You're willing to roll with Macc for now. I might be, but if there is someone more proven available, I would lean towards that guy.
     
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  4. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    He is not 50/50. Just because he added some pieces to fill some holes does not excuse him for the bad drafting. What's going to happen is he will sign other players to fill in for the misses in the draft and they will be older and more expensive than the draft picks would have been. The will age out and eat up cap and there will be no one behind them because mac has not shown the ability to draft more than 1 decent starter per year.
    You know just like the Tanny era. Except Tanny was able to put a few good drafts together first to set us up for a little play off run before it crashed. Right now I really don't see this era ever getting off the ground
     
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  5. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i think people don't look at law of averages. if you can land 2-3 starters in a draft, that is considered a good one. even the best GMs have like a 80% miss rate. you got 32 teams 7 picks each that's 224 picks. plus throw in like another 50ish comp picks so say 275 people drafted each year. over 200 of them will be out of the NFL in 3 years or less. teams have a roster of 54 players times 32 teams that's 1728 jobs and every year a new 275 or so (not including UDFA) vying to take one of those jobs form someone else. many don't.
     
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  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Ok,as soon as mac starts landing 2-3 good starters per draft I will get off his back.
     
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    sweet so Mac took the players he signed years ago and cut them a year earlier.

    Give this guy the key to the city. If he didn't sign Revis and other expensive players that were later cut, perhaps a player like Snacks would've stayed here. Maybe they go out and get a young player to help the rebuild.
     
  8. GasedAndConfused

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    well as it stands now adams and maye and both look good so far for 2017
    2016 lee (yeah he's up and down) jenkins, burris, edwards, and UDFA anderson
    2015 Williams, mauldin was until injury

    So in 3 drafts williams and adams look like studs. williams already made a pro bowl. adams looks like he's a stud and future pro bowler. maye looks solid too. burris is one of our best CBs even if he had a rough game last week. anderson is out number 2 WR and looked great last year with petty. I feel like mccown holds him back. 1st preseason game he did hit him for a big one. jenkins looks solid at OLB but probably better as a depth guy for now. we'll see eventually. edwards is our starting punter. yeah he was bad last year with his shankes but if we can stop shanking it he would be dam good. this yeah he has been good. Mauldin showed flashes of being a pass rusher but injuries are catching up to him.

    that's not terrible in 3 drafts

    looking at the pats draft who had a lot more picks then us over the past 3 years they got brisset and brown? nobody really standing out to me. they are relying on the offense with brady and gronk. their defense is bad. all their WRs weren't drafted by them nor their RBs the last time they really hit big on a player or draft? 2012 with hightower and jones https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm
     
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    Nope this fan base is impatient and just worth a shit. Dump the ineffective players and you replace with young talent. It needs to be coached up and taught...it may not be Bowles that ultimately does this but he's done the right things. So Lee isn't playing as well, does it mean he's awful? Maybe it's coaching here. Burris had a bad week last week, I guess he sucks right? Anderson hasn't done much the first two weeks, guess he won't be a factor as a Jet too right? For one, things take time to adjust to the NFL, or for them to be put in the right positions to succeed. Not everyone is going to be an Adams or Maye and set the world on fire here. Freaking RELAX.
     
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  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Williams is the only good player he has drafted so far. 2017 grades not withstanding. Others may be starting for us but that doesn't mean they are good. 2 drafts 1 good player so far. If you have to type paragraphs to explain how a player may be a good choice that's a problem
     
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  11. GasedAndConfused

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    ok but compare it to NE drafts i linked. what have they drafted good in the past few years? what about the steelers james is a pretty good TE that's about it. i think only 2-3 players are starting for them. how about seattle. i guess lockkett and griffin? carolina? nobody really. ATL? beasley is a beast, coleman is a good 3rd down back, hooper is a solid TE thats about it. those are some of the best teams in the NFL

    it's easy to be overly critical of our picks since we follow them so much, but you have to look at them compared to others. it's not like every team is drafting 3 probowlers a year and we aren't
     
  12. Zach

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    Unless the drafted player is an instant HoF quality player, he's a fucking bust. Got that? Unless he plays like an all-pro from day 1, he's a failure. So, Mac's draft has been a failure up until now. A miserable failure at that. Not a single HoF quality player. Not a single All-pro. How terrible.
     
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    LMAO
     
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    If that was not enough:

    His FA pickups are all failures. Case in point? Which player Mac acquired via FA plays like a HoF player? Or an All-pro? I rest my case.
     
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    case closed!
     
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    All I can think about is Marshall's comments about Jets having "no chance" meanwhile Giants can't even get a win.

    "I think everyone knows the type of personality I am at this point in my career,” Marshall said. “I wouldn’t have made it through an entire season knowing that we didn’t have a chance. That’s all you want as a player — you just want a chance.”

    If Giants keep losing is he going to make it through the entire season???
     
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    Another miss by Folk...... on the same day his replacement hits a game winner in OT!
     
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    Oh well, it's been real bro.
     
  19. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    to be fair even though he missed 2 FGs he still hit the game winner. and chandler missed a FG as well but hit the game winner
     
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  20. NYJetsO12

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    Macs career with us has been a stock market roller coaster e.g. Overpaying Mevi$ and Shitz; drafting poorly e.g. Lee first round Hackenberg in 2nd- OMG
    On the other hand, Positives: while jury still out Anderson, Mguire, Kearst even McGown plus a ton of young talent etc
    Is the Team better from when MM first took over...???? not sure but he has made some nice deals for us lately

    He was grading a C/D with me Now hes back up to B-

    Let's see how it rolls going forward for our rookie GM

    JMHO
     

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