Hell No That is Robbery, armed Robbery, Our chances are better woth Penny and Brooks. No way do we do this deal for Schaub. We will be fools
I love the way all these kids have "sources" these days.. Something tells me we all have the same "source" called the internet..
I think the more accurate description of the source is the random thoughts of one's mind. And I'm not sure why the Jets are getting desperate about this. The Falcons are not going to find anyone that will meet what they want for Schaub besides the Jets, not with it at the almost absurd value it seems to be right now. Even though the Jets themselves seem to be having some trouble finding a suitor for Abe, I fully believe it would be easier than the Falcons dealing Schaub. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason that Schaub just became a little more attainable was that Mike Vick's cousin Aaron Brooks was released. Would be a good one year stop gap at backup QB (esp. considering Vick's injury is inevitable).
Those are terrible deals. The first deal basically says that Abe is worth slightly more than a backup QB that is in the last year of his contract. That's like giving JAbe a value of a very low 1st (agreed) and Schaub the value of a very high 2nd (disagree). The second is even worse. Draft pick trade alone, their 1st and second for our first has them gaining 200 value points. Factor in JAbe and Schaub and we're basically trading them JAbe and a 3rd for Schaub. Schaub is not worth more than JAbe.
Why is the Grass always greener with you guys? Abe is an ELITE DE Schaub is a Backup QB !!!!!!! We have the #4 Pick They Have the #15 and you guys are ok with this???? Don't drink the milk , it's spoiled!!!!
I agree and Atl should know we have those options. We could draft one of the 3 high rated qb's and use the other 1st rounder for a stud O line man.
What's that? The location of 17a? That is a silly trade. If the Jets did that, I'd drown my troubles in a 40 and laundry detergent.
Tell me bout it! I just don't get when I see how many people put stock into unproven Players or picks and are willing to get rid of a Proven Player for it. Let alone an Elite pass rushing DE! Amazes me
Great espn article on Shaub detailing why he is the best bet for the jets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Schaub is safer bet than top college prospects By Michael Smith ESPN.com Archive All you heard after this year's Rose Bowl was Vince Young this, Vince Young that. Jay Cutler was the talk of the Senior Bowl and the scouting combine. Now, nearly a week into free agency and six weeks before the draft, the hottest quarterback prospect isn't from college but rather is 24-year-old Atlanta backup Matt Schaub. Word around the campfire is the Dolphins offered the Falcons a second-round pick and then some (pick or player) for Michael Vick's understudy before they swung a deal with the Vikings for Daunte Culpepper. The Falcons want Jets franchised defensive end John Abraham, but New York's desire for Schaub in exchange is holding up that deal. The Cowboys, Ravens, Titans and Vikings -- all in the market for a young quarterback -- have contacted the Falcons about Schaub and been rebuffed. It's going to take a lot to pry Schaub -- a third-round pick out of Virginia in 2004 (the fifth quarterback selected) -- from the Falcons, and it's easy to understand why. With injuries and inept performances common, a quality backup quarterback is not a luxury but a necessity. The way Vick plays, he inevitably gets hurt. Schaub stepped in for Vick in Week 5 last year and made a nice r?sum? tape for himself, shredding the Patriots' defense for 298 yards and three touchdowns in a three-point loss -- this, one week after he impersonated Vick in the second half of a blowout win over the Vikings, running for 56 yards on four carries. Not coincidentally, new Jets coach Eric Mangini was New England's defensive coordinator last year and Vikings owner Zygi Wilf had a front-row (box) seat for Schaub's dynamic relief performance against his defense. Rex Brown/WireImage.com In limited playing time, Schaub has convinced many teams he can be a top-flight starter. Remember: Three falls ago, Falcons owner Arthur Blank had to watch Doug Johnson quarterback his team when Vick missed most of the 2003 season with a broken leg. For the Falcons to make a deal involving Schaub -- and the impression I got Wednesday from speaking with one high-ranking team official was that he was not "untouchable" -- they have to be able to replace him with someone they feel they can win with when and if Vick goes down for a game or two. Problem is, not many teams (how about Tennessee with Billy Volek?) can offer the combination of a starting-caliber backup and high pick(s) it takes to get Schaub. So then, it's up to the aforementioned QB-needy teams to make Atlanta a Godfather offer. If I'm the Jets or Titans, I do darn near whatever it takes to get this kid. It says a lot, doesn't it, that both those clubs -- teams picking third (Titans) and fourth -- are exploring alternatives to drafting a quarterback early. As much as there is to like about Cutler, Young and Matt Leinart, there's no question each has holes in his game. Can Cutler correct the bad habits he developed playing with poor talent at Vanderbilt? (Oh, and FYI: From what I understand, Cutler didn't exactly blow the Jets away during his combine interview.) Can Young cut it as a passer at this level? And how's Leinart going to respond to a pass-rush? We've seen what a crapshoot picking quarterbacks can be. Crap out early and it can cost you $20 million. So if I'm going to role the dice, I do it on a guy who's cheap ($385,000 next year, the last of his contract, after which he becomes a restricted free agent) and whom I don't have to try to project as much. Even though Schaub has started only two games, he is 134 regular-season pass attempts more experienced than any of the top prospects. The Jets took the unusual step of having players break down their college game film at the combine. They already have NFL film on Schaub. You know what he can do against a Bill Belichick scheme, a Ted Cottrell defense, pro competition. With the draft's big three, as Jim Mora's dad once said, you think you know, but you just don't know. I'm guessing the Jets and Titans have some doubts about the top guys and would prefer not to bet the house on an unknown. Something else that makes Schaub attractive is that he has had great training. His position coach at Virginia was Bill Musgrave, his head coach Al Groh. In Atlanta, he has been tutored by Greg Knapp, who has worked with Pro Bowlers Steve Young, Jeff Garcia and Vick. When you watch Schaub, you see a big (6 foot 5, 237 pounds), poised and accurate passer. You see perhaps the next Mark Brunell or Marc Bulger or Matt Hasselbeck or Jake Delhomme -- all one-time understudies who have gone on to have success as starters. Schaub is bright and makes good decisions. Cutler, Leinart and Young will need time to adjust to the pro game. Schaub is ready to step in and lead right now. Atlanta took care of a lot of the grooming. The Falcons would like to hold on to Schaub, and that's smart, but if the right offer comes along that could help them improve at several other positions, they'd be foolish not to consider it. Or maybe they just keep him this year, slap the high (first- and third-round pick compensation) restricted tender on him next year and make the rest of the league wait until he's an unrestricted free agent. But his trade value might never be higher than it is right now -- something for the Falcons to think about. As for any teams thinking about taking a gamble on a quarterback, they might want to consider passing on investing a top-five pick and a large signing bonus in an unproven player. There are very few sure things when it comes to quarterbacks. Anyway, unless you're the Saints -- who pick second -- you don't know for sure whether you'll get the QB you want. I still believe the top three guys will be good players, but Schaub just might be the best bet. He's certainly the safest. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On a side note i just want to state that michael smith has turned into a very good writer and i value his opinion. He is always writing something jets related even though he worked for the boston area papers before. Also he provides good analysis on around the horn
Man, do Tangini have this cat in their pocket or what? He has to be the biggest Jets backer in the national media. What do they have on Smith that he doesn't want publicized?
And if we DO deal with ATL then the Jets MUST get the better deal out of it. I'm sick of us always getting screwed. Jolley..... Conway..... Ugh.
I agree to that extent. Schaub is the kinda guy that should go to the Brown or the Cards. Or the old Fins.... Teams that aren't looking for a definate star but want to take a risk. The Lions are even doing that with Kitna. YES even Kitna.
You can say the same about Leinart or Young. I think the risk is better taken on drafting a Leinart. Chad stays the top dog. Schaub's worth won't be as great then someone we draft.
The Official Matt Schaub thread is Here!! ok abe for schaub and a 3rd rounder. if that goes down and the saints draft d-brick. then who do we draft? mario williams? a.j. hawk? holoti ngata? I want a.j. gabe watson in the 2nd round if mangold isnt available.
