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Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by HomeoftheJets, Nov 12, 2018.
Chubb, Landry, Duke, Calloway and Njoku is a far better supporting cast IMO.
The dolphins don’t have much talent. Ajayi and Landry haven’t been lighting it up elsewhere
I saw today that kenyan drake asked for a trade if they were gonna keep gase. I dont want him as HC at all
We knew there was going to be no football operations guy brought onboard so nothing here is a big surprise. The only thing this clarifies is that the coach will continue to report to the owner which probably makes the job more acceptable to applicants that would have a problem reporting to the GM.
I have no problem with looking for an offensive minded coach first; no problem with looking at college coaches and no problem with trying to get head coaching experience. Are you suggesting that all first and some second tier candidates would have demanded autonomy?
I might be in the minority, but I'm against giving a coach total control..... It has to be a real special coach to get that to work.... And those coaches generally aren't the ones looking for work
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WTF would anyone want, Gase???
The fuck... have we sucked that bad to the point that people are literally finding Gase a reasonable hire now?
Time and place,time and place. It was the right way when Mac and Bowles came on considering they were both first timers and the way things went with Rex and idzic. It’s the right way now considering Mac shouldn’t have much job security.
I don't like it. While I'm not crazy about Maccagnan, I believe the HC should report to the GM. If the HC and GM are co-equal, that puts ownership in the middle of too many football decisions (ie, any time Maccagnan and the HC are at loggerheads). Does anyone here trust Woody/Chris to make football decisions? If ownership doesn't trust Maccagnan to supervise the coach, fire Maccagnan. .
There's plenty of rumors that Paul Depodesta has a ton of say , in fact...Dorsey wanted to keep Haley on, Depo said no to Haley...guess who the owner listened to? Sure you wanna go with the Browns as your go to?
Also, who's this BIG name head coach you speak of? If it's Jim Harbaugh, that's a guy who's offense would be worse then Bates, as he's stuck in the 90's with his schemes, and he can't A- hang with the big boys in November and December, and B- can't even keep KIDS in line...there's a reason he hasn't been coach at a particular place past 4 years.
Y'all need to relax, this is SOJ syndrome, and honestly it reminds me of the GM search the Mets had when everyone was panicking over the names being said thru the media, only for it to go to BVW...Whos been quite progressive with his plans and moves. Of course there's still doubts there because "OMG WILPONS AND METS HAVENT SPENT!" But naysayers are gonna naysay either way. Gotta change the mind set.
I'm not doing a damn thing.
The Johnson's are. I wanted Mac fired, he wasn't.
But not tying the next HC directly to him, makes the opening more attractive
Landry's become a leader on the Browns and Ajayi was a key to piece to the Eagles Super Bowl . He's injured so not much he can light up. Plus Gase had control of player personal in Miami so any lack of talent is on him.
Let's say Macc gets fired after next season. The next GM will want his HC or we'll be stuck in an Idzik/Rex situation again.
Your #'s 3 & 4 are vital.. I think this is primarily where Bowles went off the rails. He wasn't on top of developing offensive trends and he was brutal in picking a coaching staff.
I don't know, Tony. Maybe my basic objection is that it smacks of another half-assed move. If you trust Maccagnan, let him hire and supervise the HC. If you don't trust him, show him the door. With a potential FQB on the roster, this isn't the time for half-way measures. Time is of the essence.
Hopefully not Jack...
I cannot believe I am agreeing with you.
Have to wonder what happens with Landry if Gase is hired by the Browns. They dislike each other, to put it mildly. Landry would be out of Cleveland immediately .
Okay, so Mac won't be in charge of the coach. Still dumb but not as bad as I feared.
Shouldn't this not be as complicated as the Damn jets are making it?
YOU HIRE FOOTBALL PEOPLE TO DO FOOTBALL THINGS.
You don't hire a GM to undercut him. You don't hire a coach to under cut him.
Now if the Johnson's want to pretend to be football people make them suit up on the field.
Owners should be seen and not heard.
At first I was reflexively against Gase, but the more I think about it, the more I'm warming to him. I get that some Dolphins hate him, but should that really be a benchmark? Supposedly everyone loves Bowles and where did that get him?