So everyone is blaming woody & idzik... So y is Rex getting so much heat? We all know Rex isn't an offensive guy and doesn't do shit but throw the challenge flag (which he usually waits to get an ok from upstairs first). Marty gotta call better plays, geno gotta make better decisions. Defensively for what he has to work with i think he's doing pretty damn good. They give the offense multiple chances to win games. I also just read an article that drafting geno was 100% idzik. With 22 million left to spend and glaring flaws on the roster mixed with the amount of talent idzik low balled over the offseason i blame idzik more. Its time to give Rex & the defensive group a real NFL offense to work with. We already seen what we can do with a good offense.
I have been a huge Rex Ryan fan and stated that I wanted him to be the coach for the next ten years if possible. I have been behind him 100 percent of the way until now. It is starting to look like a poorly coached team. I don't know if that has to do with Rex having to scheme too much due to lack of talent, but it looks sloppy. I'm really hoping it cleans up starting this week and we aren't constantly shooting ourselves in the foot. I think Rex can still stay but he has to really clean it up. That being said, the GM has done nothing to indicate that he wants to keep the HC. There was no way you could fire Rex after the job he did last season. This season is shaping up differently though.
Instead of worrying about PSLs shouldn't they have taken those draft picks and acquired players that could have helped the Jets during that 6-10 season? I don't see how you don't think that's a Woody move. It absolutely is. Woody needs to stay out of every decision except to sign the freaking checks. Hire someone else for the football decisions.
You quoted it, but did you read it? Let me type slowly for you. In my opinion: The signing of Tebow was a marketing move, approved by Johnson. (Draft picks, as we've seen lately, are overrated and were traded for business purposes.)
Don't be a moron, think before you post. Let me quote something you said. What kind of football team brings in a player for PSL purposes and PSL purposes only? Sounds like an OWNER DECISION to me. Approved by Johnson? Lol. More like Johnson wanted Tebow here to fatten his wallet, it was HIS decision, the front office followed through with the decision. No freaking Marketing team is going to go to the owner and say let's trade for Tebow. The plan was a Woody move from the start. HE wanted Tebow here. Of course marketing benefits. Are you this naive to think Woody didn't bring up acquiring Tebow? If so, I feel really bad for you. He has more power then you think, after all he's the fucking owner.
I also believe you have absolutely no experience with how big business works. Hold your sympathy for someone who cares or believes name calling advances their viewpoint.
Name a professional NFL franchise that brought in a player for ticketing sales ONLY and not to help the football team. I don't think you know how a professional NFL franchise works.
We are an amateur franchise dressed in professional clothing. Name another franchise. When has this EVER been done?
But But Woody only vetoes against transactions! Only a misguided fan would believe this. James Dolan's dumbass even wouldn't do something like this if it ain't helping the basketball team.
Don't need another - we're talking about the Jets. And really it was probably more like 90% marketing and a 10% longshot that the tiger could change his stripes. He couldn't. His 2 1/2 million bought a lot of ink and airtime and the 4th and 6th rounders cost virtually nothing.
From ESPN, Jan 1. 2013: The New York Jets are prepared to try the same thing, the NFL version of the arranged marriage. Rex Ryan is sticking around, owner Woody Johnson announced Monday, but they will hire a new GM. The new football czar will be entrusted with the power to fire Ryan in 2014. This approach can be complicated, and it comes with a set of challenges. Ryan and his new boss will have conflicting agendas. Ryan, in make-or-break mode, will take a short-term view on roster and personnel decisions. He has two years left on his contract, meaning it's win-or-else in 2014. Obviously, the new GM will have a long-range perspective, which could lead to disagreements. It will put Ryan in a difficult position, coaching for his job with an offense that needs a new quarterback and a major overhaul. There's a good chance it could end up like it did in Chicago, with the new GM praising Ryan for his defensive prowess but saying he couldn't get it done on offense. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...ral-manager-pick-set-rex-ryan-success-failure From AP, Jan. 10, 2013: Johnson confirmed Tuesday in his first meeting with the media since firing Tannenbaum that the team has told candidates they must be willing to work with coach Rex Ryan. "They know he's a good coach and you can't always say that," Johnson said. "It takes one of the uncertainties out of the equation." Johnson also added that Ryan would be part of the process to find the new general manager. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/jets-gm-search-include-gaine-khan FRom silive, Jan. 15, 2013: There are 32 GM jobs in the NFL. They’re not easy to come by. Yet for some reason, after three weeks of searching, we are hearing reports that the New York Jets are actually having a hard time finding executives willing to fill their opening. First, Jay Glazer said on Fox that Gang Green “can’t give the job away” and are reaching back to candidates that have “already turned them down.” Then we learned from Sports Illustrated’s Peter King that owner Woody Johnson badly wanted former Falcons director of player personnel Dave Caldwell – taking him on a tour of the area and attempting to woo him with an unusual $1 million housing allowance perk, only to see him take the Jacksonville job instead. Only those conducting the interviews truly know what’s going on – but something certainly seems fishy here. Caldwell bolted and early favorite Tom Gamble seemingly disappeared from contention immediately after Johnson’s lovefest press conference with coach Rex Ryan. You remember, right? That was the day Johnson hailed Rex’s “rare ability as a leader,” and not only mandated that his next GM would have to work with Ryan, but revealed he would give the controversial coach some say in process to hire his next boss. Basically, Ryan would be given the kind of power bestowed to men like Bill Belichick and Bill Cowher. Only without their rings, draft record or ability to actually run a balanced, united, functional football team. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not. This is the most important hire of Johnson’s tenure as owner. He needs a sound football man to improve a salary cap nightmare and reverse a recent trend of bad draft picks. He needs a strong evaluator to decide the fate of star cornerback Darrelle Revis, who will surely be seeking a new contract despite coming off a severe knee injury. Remember, Revis' deal states he cannot be hit with a franchise tag, so the team will have to re-sign him now to huge bucks, trade him or let him hit the open market. If Johnson compromised this hire for a coach who should have conceivably been fired, well that’s straight from the days when James Dolan let Isaiah Thomas run amok at Madison Square Garden. And the Jets may be destined for the kind of drought that plagued the Knicks. http://www.silive.com/jets/index.ss...m_search_by_forcing_rex_ryan_on_new_hire.html From SB Nation, Jan. 13, 2013: The New York Jets are having some serious issues bringing in a general manager to replace the ousted Mike Tannenbaum. According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the Jets' atmosphere is holding them back. Glazer continues to say that he expects New York to make the move rather quickly, but it certainly hasn't been an easy process. This has been just another embarrassing episode for the Jets. The team interviewed David Caldwell and were supposedly smitten with him, only to watch him take the same job with the Jacksonville Jaguars, perhaps the worst team in the league. All of it speaks to the epic dysfunction within the organization, whether real or perceived. The Jets are also held back by owner Woody Johnson's proclamation that no potential GM can come in and replace head coach Rex Ryan. One name that has been rumored for the job is ex-Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo, who led them to a Super Bowl appearance in 2006. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/1/13/3872570/jets-general-manager-search-circus Heh. Rough day for Ralebird. I'd almost feel sorry for him, but it wasn't me who told him to take the position that Johnson does not make significant football decisions. And yes, all that was common knowledge at the time. Common as in widespread, and knowledge as in information. Suck on that, Birdie.
LMAO whatever dude, caught in your own sea of bullshit man. Woody makes decisions on this team, it's painfully obvious. Only the NYJs would bring in a player that doesn't benefit the football team. This organization is poorly ran. Sorry to open your eyes. It's the truth.
Not to be too philosophical here, but I must say I find the mindset of those totally inclined to defend a trust fund baby like Woody to be alien. You don't have to be a communist to recognize he did nothing to achieve his position on his own merits or accomplishments. He's owned the team for 15 years, and while we can quibble about the fine points here and there, he's not brought us an SB. Oh well...
He really hasn't been successful, once the team has any type of success it goes down the toilet the next yr. He can't keep the team above water for more than 3 yrs at a time without a rebuild process. Happened when he acquired the team, and during the Sanchez era. He has a product that cannot sustain success for a decent period of time. I call it not having your priorities in check.
I think a major question, at least for me, is "what is this team?" Is it considered a win now playoff contender, or is it rebuilding? If its win now, they're not living up to that. If its rebuilding, that is also distressing, as their last draft was not great, and many players, especially on the all important offensive line, are another year older. But it just seems like its a meandering franchise with little direction. Before the draft two years ago, I don't recall, and correct me if my memory is off, ANY Jets brass talking about getting Geno Smith as our "franchise" QB. In fact, we passed on him in the first round. Then he falls to us in the second round, and suddenly he is "The Man." Does that seem like proper planning? As for Smith, if you watch college football as much as I do, you know the Smith you are seeing now IS Geno Smith as he always has been. Yes, he did put up impressive numbers (while surrounded by impressive talent) at West Virginia, in a system that suited his run/pass capabilities. However, I also watched him TWICE get his ass kicked by a mediocore Syracuse team, including once in a bowl game, and Geno was a turnover machine, in those losses and a number of others. He fell to the second round for a reason. My feelings about Rex Ryan are well known. I compare him to Wayne Fontes, for those that remember him. He was supposedly an offensive genius and, although the Lions never won a damn thing, managed to stay around by having a good relationship with ownership and by stringing together wins at the end of the season, although those wins never amounted to anything (sound familiar?). Rex is the defensive version of Fontes. He is a con man with a big mouth whose antics serve to distract from his ineptness, and who survives because the clueless owner loves to see Ryan in the newspaper. I've seen this numerous times over 5 decades. Who, or what, are the Jets? They don't seem to know, and the fans definetly don't know. If that is not a case for frustration, I don't know what is.
Just because he's a trust fund baby and basically lucked out into a great life and an immensely powerful profession, doesn't mean he's fair game for mindless slander. People talk about him like he's an inordinately bad owner who has ruined the franchise. But, as I and others have been pointed out ad nauseam, an objective look at the Jets record over his tenure simply doesn't support that position. The Jets have been an average franchise under his leadership, not an unmitigated disaster. We aren't talking about Donald Sterling, James Dolan, or Al Davis of his later years here. The facts just don't match the hype.
Well, you'd better get used to it for several reasons. First, Woody ain't selling the Jets so he gets to continue his ownership of this wildly successful franchise. Secondly, given today's presser, Rex doesn't have to win this season to keep his job. He most likely doesn't have to win next year or the year after that either. Maybe he's gonna be this generation's Walt Alston. For those that don't know the story, Walt Alston was the LA Dodger manager for decades and he signed only one year contracts each year for pretty close to 20 years running World Series or not. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...oody-johnson-geno-smith-franchise-qb-mistakes Taken in part from ESPN/new-york: Welcome to Status Quo, NY. where no one is held accountable and everyone gets as much time as it takes to achieve absolutely nothing.
