The *Official* FIRE BOB SUTTON thread

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  1. LoyalJetsFan

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    I'll give you that, but he needs to be able to make adjustments during the game, and apply some damn pressure
     
  2. LoyalJetsFan

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    Dear Boob Sutton,

    In case we have to play the Pats again this year, please refer to the game tape of today's Pitt vs NE game...AND COPY EVERYTHING THE STEELERS DID. Please learn from a REAL defensive coordinator, and produce a worthy game plan.
     
  3. PleaseWinSuperBowlJets

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    Come on, this is pathetic, 1 loss, and we're calling for his head?
     
  4. NDmick

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    I've been calling for Sutton's head since February 2006, the day he was hired.
     
  5. LoyalJetsFan

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    Um No. If you look at the date this thread was started, I called for his head back in September.
     
  6. rickjet

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    ..it's not just the 1 loss...it's either his strategy "prevent & soft coverage"or it's Mangini...but it needs to change...we get lit up every time we do this
     
  7. LoyalJetsFan

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    Dear Bob- Please read, and take notes. Pay special attention to the bold print.


    Steelers? defense stifles Patriots 33-10

    By HOWARD ULMAN, AP Sports Writer 11 hours, 27 minutes ago


    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP)?The Steelers snapped the Patriots? spell over them with a plan that has worked all season: knock ?em down, steal the ball and keep them from gaining yards.

    Pittsburgh?s top-ranked defense got rolling in the second half, leading the Steelers to a 33-10 win on a cold and rainy Sunday, only their second victory in eight games against New England.

    ?We heard a lot of talk about it being a rivalry,? Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin said. ?It hasn?t been much of a rivalry until you win some. That?s what we talked about coming up here.?

    The Steelers outscored the Patriots 23-0 in the second half when they had all five of their takeaways and four of their five sacks and gave up 81 yards to a team that had gained more than 500 in each of its two previous games.

    ?They had to start passing the ball and we didn?t have to sit back and try and guess what they were doing,? said James Harrison, who sacked Matt Cassel twice, forcing fumbles. ?We just pinned our ears back and went at them.?

    The Steelers (9-3) got two scoring passes from Ben Roethlisberger and four field goals from Jeff Reed and lead Baltimore by one game in the AFC North.

    The Patriots (7-5) gained only 267 yards and remained a game behind the New York Jets in the AFC East. They?re tied with Miami in the division and trail Indianapolis and Baltimore by one game in the wild-card race.

    ?A couple of weeks ago, all the games became must wins,? said Sammy Morris, who scored the Patriots? only touchdown. ?Now it puts a little more emphasis on every game.?

    The Patriots beat the Steelers in two AFC championship games en route to two of their three Super Bowl titles this decade and dominated them 34-13 in Foxborough last season.

    ?Two different teams,? said Hines Ward, who caught one scoring pass. ?(Tom) Brady?s out on their team. We?re worried about the ?08 Steelers not the ?07 Steelers.?

    So are their opponents.

    Pittsburgh hasn?t allowed more than 290 yards in any game this season and held New England to one conversion on 13 third-down plays.

    ?The weather didn?t matter,? New England?s Kevin Faulk said. ?The turnovers were frustrating. You can?t do that and win in this league.?

    Cassel was 19-for-39 for 169 yards and no touchdowns against Pittsburgh after throwing for at least 400 yards in his past two games. He lost his leading receiver when Wes Welker left late in the third quarter after being leveled by safety Ryan Clark. There was no update on his condition.

    Randy Moss dropped two passes while wide open, one of which would have gone for a touchdown in the final minute of the first half. Two plays later, Stephen Gostkowski missed a 27-yard field goal.

    ?Once you drop one ball, you drop another ball, it does start to affect you mentally,? Moss said. ?I didn?t play good today. I?m not blaming it on the weather.?

    In the third quarter, Matthew Slater fumbled away a kickoff, setting up Roethlisberger?s 11-yard scoring pass to Ward. Slater filled in for Ellis Hobbs, who sat out that play after suffering cramps.

    Harrison forced fumbles by Cassel on his two sacks, which gave him 14 for the season. One led to Reed?s 20-yard field goal that made it 23-10. Reed missed his kick after the other one.

    ?That?s what we?ve come to expect from him,? Tomlin said of Harrison.

    Troy Polamalu?s interception with 9:18 left led to Reed?s 40-yard field goal. Then Lawrence Timmons returned another interception 89 yards, setting up Gary Russell?s 1-yard touchdown run.

    ?It?s not about Matt Cassel,? the quarterback said. ?It?s about 11 guys on offense trying to get better and I could care less about? his game-by-game progress being stopped.

    With more than five minutes left, most of the drenched fans had headed to the warmth of their cars. Some who remained waved yellow-and-black Terrible Towels.

    New England scored first on Morris? 2-yard run after Mike Vrabel intercepted Roethlisberger?s pass on Pittsburgh?s second offensive play. Gostkowski?s 29-yard field goal gave the Patriots a 10-3 lead before Roethlisberger?s 19-yard scoring pass to Santonio Holmes with 1:55 left in the half.

    Roethlisberger went 17-for-33 for 179 yards and one interception as the Steelers converted on 8-of-16 third downs and put up their third-highest scoring game of the season despite coming in ranked only 26th in yards gained.

    But the defense was the difference.

    ?It was unbelievable,? Roethlisberger said. ?You just get to the sideline, put your coat on, your hat on, and, all of a sudden, you?re ready to go back on the field.?

    Notes

    Harrison, with 14 sacks, and Woodley, with 11 1/2 , set a club record for most combined sacks by two players. ? Faulk?s 41-yard run was the third longest of his 10-year career. ? Both teams had 19 first downs, but the Steelers had an edge of 10 minutes, 10 seconds in time of possession.
     
  8. Quack

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    Lots of people were calling for his head all of last season as well, and it even started back in 06'. For someone to say that people calling for Sutton's firing is a new thing is just plain ignorant. He should go back to coaching linebackers - He was actually good at that.

    You ATTACK an offense. If they perform perfectly and just manage to get one or two big plays off, so be it. They'll be hurting the entire time and giving everything either a second thought or none at all. You lose? Well at least you played a good physical game. This crap of soft zones and no real blitzing, with the situations where you actually do blitz being obvious? It's bullshit. I remember games in 06' where you would have these insane blitz packages, all these different looks, one down lineman, SIX down linemen, with you never being able to tell who was coming at you and from where. It caused shitloads of problems for offenses. We did a little of it in 07' and the opposition still never had it figured out. Why is that gone? Why did we remove the only shit in our defense that was successful?

    THAT is why most people on this board call for Sutton's head on a daily basis and have been for years. He's smart enough to come up with the schemes, we've seen them before, so we know he is. He just lacks the balls to actually implement them. Make him a defensive assistant, keep him around in some capacity - but don't keep him as our coordinator.
     
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  9. MBGreen

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    for the love of god...this fuckwad has TO GO!!!
     
  10. xmscott

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    Something is OBVIOUSLY wrong.
     
  11. PleaseWinSuperBowlJets

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    Our Pass D has more holes than Swiss Cheese, and Bob Sutton is clueless!
     
  12. MBGreen

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    how on god's green earth...does a 3rd rate QB like Shaun Hill carve up our defense like that!!!
     
  13. wewantsapp

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    Sutton gives me the impression of a man who is completely unaware that there are actually other football games going on in which the defense plays to attack.
     
  14. PleaseWinSuperBowlJets

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    Bob Sutton is the worst DC ever, maybe we should have gotten Bill Belichick to be our DC
     
  15. MBGreen

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    at this point....Jenn Sterger would be a better DC than Sutton.......dammit, we've only played 1 quarter...and the nausea is already settling in.
     
  16. KiLLaH87

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    lol nausea is setting in for me too. not sure if its something i ate or bob sutton.
     
  17. #4kicksA$$

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    the nausea is already settling in,exactly how I feel.
     
  18. HOI

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    This Hill kid is amazing!! I mean look at him march right down the field. Looks like he will continue the 49er tradition...Montana, Young, Hill....3 hall of famers. Cant blame Sutton for not stopping this game breaker!!
     
  19. #4kicksA$$

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    That post was sarcasm I hope.
     
  20. NYJets4EverOnTop

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    If Bob Sutton is our Def. Cooridinator next year, I'll be finding a new hobby come Football season.
     

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