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A big problem is that the media talk track will be something like “the Jets have sucked and they suck because they never give a coach a chance and there’s no continuity and Woody needs to give Glenn a chance to right the ship”…I can hear it already when you listen to stuff like NFL Radio on Sirius/XM…when the Jets come up you usually hear some version of that.

And I think it’s complete idiocy and bullshit. It’s confusing causation and correlation.

The Jets aren’t bad because they keep firing coaches, they are bad because Woody continually hires the wrong fucking coaches to begin with. You could have given Gase 10 years and he’d still suck. I think Saleh maybe would have more of a shot to succeed since at lease he proved he knew his side of the ball. Glenn has taken a bad D and made it worse somehow. Totally inept.

And as much as I hate to say it because I loved him as a player for us, I just had zero faith in the hire from the jump. Leave it to Woody to think he made the right move hiring a coach from a successful team, feeling like he’s the smart guy in the room, when anyone could see that he hired the wrong fucking coach from that team. Glenn didn’t develop a top defense there. That team won because of Johnson’s creativity, the front office’s moves, and Campbell’s leadership. None of that was Glenn.

Woody just hired the same guy that has already failed him the past 6-7 times…just that their names were Edward’s, Mangini, Rex, and Bowles, with a WTF hire in Gase mixed in there. None of those guys were good here, and the only one with “success” since has been Bowles but I think he still sucks…they’ve won that division by default because it’s sucked for so long, and once with a losing record I believe.

Woody has no fucking clue what a successful HC looks like.

I think he should fire Glenn and the whole staff as soon as the season is over, and at this point, fuck Korn Ferry, fuck Charley Casserly, and fuck the 33rd fucking team bullshit.

Just let Mougey hire the next HC, make sure it’s an offensive guy, preferably with experience, but I can deal with a rookie OC type, and just go from there. Let the 5 first round picks be the enticement to come here and start fresh.

I can’t deal with another wasted year watching shit like this

 

I've reached a point where I'm basically numb to it. Fortunately, in my household, we have a 49'er fan so I can at least support my wife supporting her team. Outside of that, the Jets are gonna Jet and we'll be revisiting this horseshit 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 years from now, like clock work. Ce La vie...

 

Look, we won two out of three games against shit teams by special teams, who effectively scored 14 and 10 points against the Browns and Atlanta respectively. When we play against good teams, we get blown out. The defense is atrocious. Jax only scored 48, but if they needed to, they could have easily scored 60. Tanner has shown a little bit of sign of life on offense once in a while, but when you have a defensive coach and your defense is even worse from the year before to the point of being awful, while retaining 8 of 11 starters and getting JJ back, more than likely you don't have the right guy. I just don't see any improvement from historically bad start and now in Dec.

If it's up to me, I am keeping Mooge and letting him hire a new coach. I think Mooge made some ballsy moves, which give some hope for the future. Glenn does not. Maybe it's Joe Brady from the Bills, or someone else. Too bad Liam Coen is no longer available, I really wanted him. But Mooge finding a new coach I think is the best course of action for this team in 2026.

 

Agreed

Glenn has shown ZERO this year. This team is a mess on both sides of the ball.

His chosen QB was a fucking disaster. His DC is a disaster. We can’t tackle worth shit. We can’t cover anybody. How in the world have you played 14 games and have ZERO picks? Like how does that happen?

This does not look like a young team playing hard but losing. It looks like a team with no identify, no fire, and no clue.

I just hate the fact that in most likelihood, we will be watching more of the same shit next year

 

I was against the hire in the first place and have seen almost nothing since to make me think that things are going to improve.

Look at what Sean Payton has done with Denver - 6 years of losing seasons then he comes in and they have had 3 back to back winning seasons and that is without anything close to a top tier QB - that is the sort of person they need to bring in and not another rookie HC.

 

Never question Woody's insanity, you would think he would stop with Gase and than after Saleh, but at this point I am starting to think no seasoned or respectable head coach wants to come here and work under Woody, because in his 25 years of owning the team we have not had one respectable coach with a resume take the job. Woody bought the team in January 2000 same time Bellichek resigned on a napkin, ever since than no coach with a pedigree has wanted to coach for Woody. I wonder why?

 

Look at Vrabel to, New England hasn't done anything since Brady left and in 1 year he turned them around from a absolute disaster to a Super Bowl contender.

 

Bears, Jags too. Glenn took a bad product and made it worse.

 

Even Carolina seems to finally got out of the shitter, How does every team finally find the right hire but the Jets? Atleast at the very least if no coach wanted to come here last offseason Woody should of just hired Rex, instead he hired a 1st time incompetent again because it has worked so well in the past.

 

At this point I gotta wonder if we keep getting blown out every week will that get Woody mad enough to fire Glenn? If so, count me in.

 

At the very least there should be a new coach bump right? Across the league teams with new coaches have a new coach bump that the players are buying into the system before they know how it will turn out. Some rhetoric, catch phrases and new faces should invigorate the franchise and the players if only in the beginning before things pan out or go sour. This is year one people and it's a complete shit show already, they can hold onto Glenn another year and delay the inevitable and they probably will but we won't win with this staff. I've said it all along and now more than ever.

 

The shittiest part of this, yet again, is how predictable it was. It's getting very old seeing the dumb moves coming from a mile away, being helpless to stop them, and then having to wait multiple years for our clueless owner to realize he screwed up yet again.

Stop. Hiring. Defensive. Coordinators. For fuck's sake man. Enough.

We're stuck trying the same braindead shit we've tried ad nauseam over the past 15 years while guys like Coen and Johnson have completely turned their teams around in one year.

 

At this point you can't teach old dumb dog new tricks. Maybe the only hope is Brick Johnson. I know he got a lot of flak for handing the game ball to GW, but come on, did you see that catch! lol. Seriously though, maybe Brick can change the trend, Woody is too far gone...

 

Yeah the sad truth is we're just fucked as long as Woody is in charge. I'm just perpetually stunned at how little football knowledge Woody has. It's like the league doesn't exist outside of the Jets to him. All he knows is we were last good with Rex so he's been trying to rebuild that exact team ever since. He knows nothing about what's working for the rest of the league.

 

That’s the fucking problem. It all starts with Woody.

Even us guys on the internet can see MUCH better what should be done. Our consensus draft picks are almost always better than the shit we actually do. Our kind of immediate judgment on coaches, both before they’re hired and after we see them work, also has almost always been spot on.

I don’t know how anybody with half a brain and eyes can look at our coaching hires over the last 20 years and see that hiring another first time DC was absolutely NOT the way to go. And yet Woody did it. Again. He tried to snow the fanbase by pitching him as a great Jets player, which he was, but I think most of us were wise enough to look past that and see that our problem has historically been offense and as such, we should try to get a coach who has specialized on that side of the ball, not only for his experience, but also for the simple fact that anyone can see this is an offensive driven league. Most of us also pointed out that AG’s defenses at Detroit were nothing special, and for sure were NOT why that team turned it around.

I am just getting older and I’m tired of wasting 2-3 years on this shit.

Goddamn it Woody, get it fucking right for one in your fucking life.

He literally had a proven Super Bowl winning offensive coach in the building and didn’t hire McCarthy, who went on to get the Cowboys to the playoffs. Not saying he was a savior but he was a better choice than Saleh was.

But as long as Woody is calling the shots, we are kind of resigned to the fact that if there is ONE way out of a hundred to genuinely fuck up a decision, Woody will FOR SURE find it.

 

Now that Glenn has fired Wilks he cant use him as the cover. If the defense doesnt show up in these final few games it all falls on Glenn.

If the Jets dont have access to Mendoza it actually does increase the chances Glenn is gone. The stadium will be empty next year. Who will buy tickets to watch this without any QB?

 

Yep agreed

Glenn was a red flag from day one. Said this ALL offseason & early in the season and it made people unhappy because they wanted to believe in him or they fell for his manipulation. Its not that I wanted Glenn to fail, I just knew he would and it was very predictable. Agreed it was a dumb move to hire him. The next dumb move would be allowing him to come back. So we all know he will be coming back.

 

Coach A.G.'s BORING AS EFF brand of New York Jets football.

He's laying the foundation for 2026 and beyond.