Joe Namath absolutely was a franchise quarterback for his time - he was in the right place at the right time to uplift not only the New York Jets but also the entire American Football League. Since then? How about...nobody?
I don't know if this is about being seasoned. I mean Glenn has been around some great HCs for many years. He had a long career playing at the highest level in the NFL, which counts for a lot. He was then a scout a position coach in NFL. DC for 4 years calling players, Campbell's right hand man. From the pedigree perspective it's as good as it gets. Compare it to someone like Coen, who is not even 40 yet, Hasn't played in the NFL and literally called plays for 1 year as an OC. He did spend one year in LA as OC, but did not call plays. Still this is not even close to Glenn's experience. And he is doing just fine. I think when it comes down to coaching, the most important thing is the schematics and intelligence. And yes you need leadership skills and other soft skills, but a lot of these guys have that or they would not even be coordinators in the NFL. Years of experience matters to some degree, but Coen has 1 year of calling plays and 0 years of HC, and yet he is doing fine calling plays and being a HC. His DC has 0 years as a play called and is also doing OK. Even Bob when he got here, his defense was good once he got decent players. He knew what he was doing when it came to the defense. I am not sure that Glenn does. His overall record as a DC is not good. The most experience by a very wide margin we have is on defense, and this is by far the worst unit of the 3. We do agree on one thing: Glenn does not know how to fix it. But I am afraid it's not because he is a new HC, but simply because he is not good enough.
the scariest thing about our offense is how masked it has been by all the garbage time scores - if you look at the first 3 quarters then we are averaging 10 points a game heading into the 4th quarter (and if you remove the steelers game as that felt like a weird aberration it would be 6 points) - it really is nuts that we have scored more points in the 4th quarter than in the rest of the game put together. Q1-3 = average of 10 points Q4 = average of 12 points
Yes this is where just looking at game stats in a vacuum is quite misleading. And that goes specifically for Fields’ QB stats as well. Can’t remember which game it was, but one of them he had like 65 yards passing at the end of the third quarter…then had a good 4th quarter against a soft D and the ending stat line wasn’t too bad. But 100% NOT representative of the game he had. That’s the thing here…if we try and break down why we are 0-5 and identify the biggest issues, you can point to many different things. Too many turnovers (and too many inside the red zone), no takeaways at all, too many penalties, and too many of them are in critical spots (like 3rd down on D that gives the offense a new set of downs), the offense is bad until the 4th quarter when the opposing defense plays soft, the defense is bad because they give up too many long drives and too many at critical times (like allowing a 70+ yard drive after a fumble like we did vs. Dallas), the QB play is bad, we have no credible deep threat to stretch the field, the defense is one of the worst tackling defenses in the league, too many players are not hustling and look like they are just going through the motions, the list is long. Which is why with coaching, the thing that is a huge red flag to me is that these issues have been there all season and are still there through five weeks. I get you can’t solve a list of 30 problems all at once, and I also get that many of these are related to a perceived lack of talent on the field, but shit, the coaches need to start somewhere. Pick one thing and attack it and solve it. One thing. Then move on to the next thing. But we’ve not seen any improvement in any of them…the storyline in each game outside of the Pitt game has been pretty much exactly the same. Get out of the game early and then only come back late in the 4th against a soft D…the only aberration to that was the Buffalo game where we didn’t come back at all. But the story has been the same. This coaching staff has been unable to solve even ONE thing. That is NOT a good sign, and that is what has me worried about AG and his staff. Obviously he has this year…but if the team continues this way and the coaches go all year with similar results and we don’t see any improvement at all, then I am absolutely fine with one and done instead of wasting more fucking years to see what we can already see.
We are going to have a lot of "garbage time" scores if defense plays like this. I think it just depends on what the definition is of garbage time. When we know we have extremely low probability to win the game, we say garbage time. But for NFL coaches, they are still playing the best players, they are still trying to defend and score until the game is completely out of reach. You just can't take that chance. Even against Dallas, I saw Dallas trying pretty hard to defend even at the end. And certainly score too late (which of course they did) in the 4th. Look at this play. Cowboys still rushing 6, still get a hit on QB, GW still had to make a great play, get hit, extends arm. Are we going to pretend Cowboys let us have it because of garbage time? I don't think so. Here are my observations based on all the film and all 22 I was able to get my hands on. Generally speaking teams are blitzing less in these situation. They are still trying to stop us as hard as they can, but blitz has more risk. We as a team have been terrible when blitzed. Protection has not been good at all. Fields (and to some extend Tyrod) does not have the best processor and is not great at throwing with anticipation. Hence when the teams blitz less with the lead, we tend to to do a lot better. There is also some random aspect of this. We lost 14 points on fumbles early in games instead of the 4th. 7 taken away by the awful call by the refs against GW. And some others. too. Overall I would say, yeah, everything is a concern at this point, but by far the defense is the biggest concern, more so than offense. Teams seem to move the ball and score at will any time on us.
Exactly. Anyone who pulls statistics trying to defend Fields as anything other than awful either isn’t watching games or is delusional.
the Jets marketing department is pimping out the garbage time stats a lot. Idk if the Jets marketing department has anything to do with the front office decision making, I sure hope not but you never know with this team
Aaron Glenn is a complete embarrassment. He’s making Adam Gase look like a decent coach here. We need to cut our losses here ASAP. Kraft did with Mayo and look at them now. Unfortunately all these announcers hyping Glenn up every week will give Woody pause to do the right thing.
Yeah…wouldn’t be the first one and done coach…and the issues we have, the type of problems with undisciplined play and turnovers and sloppiness and lack of effort are extremely concerning types of issues…they speak to coaching failures. This is not an untalented team playing their best, playing smart, playing hard…this is a lazy sloppy-ass team and if it doesn’t improve, that’s on coaching
My biggest fear is that Woody will be thinking, “It took them four years to turn around Detroit so I have to give the coaches four or five years to make sure the build is right.” Meanwhile…
Can Woody Johnson PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get caught using the n word or sex scandal so he can finally sell the team an rid of of this bad karma?
